<div dir="ltr"><div>What? My understanding was that the DMCA provision affected *only unlocking* the phone, and that rooting it or installing a 3rd-party OS was still legal ( although it could theoretically expose you to civil suit). That said, my desultory research shows it _is_ illegal to jailbreak your tablet.<br>
<br><a href="http://gizmodo.com/5955130/jailbreaking-is-now-legal-for-smartphonesbut-not-tablets?tag=dmca">http://gizmodo.com/5955130/jailbreaking-is-now-legal-for-smartphonesbut-not-tablets?tag=dmca</a><br><br></div><div>
Not that any of this makes sense.<br></div><div><br></div>-- CHS<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 10:21 PM, Jim Kinney <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jim.kinney@gmail.com" target="_blank">jim.kinney@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Reread the rules. You can't root a phone that under discount-based contract. It doesn't belong to you until the contract is over. It's a lease to own.<br>
<br>Yes, I want to remove the facebook app that Verizon installs by default on my jelly-bean phone. But I can't until I own it free and clear.<br>
<br>This doesn't mean I shouldn't be able to require customer service from Verizon and demand they remove the app I don''t want so I have more resources for what I do want. <br><div><div class="h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 7:20 PM, Brian Mathis <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:brian.mathis+ale@betteradmin.com" target="_blank">brian.mathis+ale@betteradmin.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Why should you need to ask permission to unlock your phone? You paid<br>
for it. If you want to break the contract that's fine, but you would<br>
be subject to a termination fee which should cover the subsidy. And<br>
since most contracts already have large termination fees, they can't<br>
argue that it's about that.<br>
<br>
Worse is that the phone is still locked after the contract is over.<br>
If I want to sell my old phone, I need to hope that the phone company<br>
will give their blessing, and many have rules that you must have an<br>
active account, it must be in good standing, etc... in order to unlock<br>
it. This is *after* you have paid off the contract and probably<br>
signed onto a new one with a new device.<br>
<br>
The only reason is to increase the friction for you leaving for<br>
another carrier, and that is anti-consumer and can only happen in an<br>
oligopolistic market.<br>
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<br>
❧ Brian Mathis<br>
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P.S. Why does my phone bill not go down after I have supposedly paid<br>
off the subsidy? Because the prices of non-contract phones are<br>
inflated on purpose as an incentive to sign a contract.<br>
<div><br>
<br>
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 11:44 AM, JD <<a href="mailto:jdp@algoloma.com" target="_blank">jdp@algoloma.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Or we can just purchase unlocked phones. There are lots of choices. Nobody forces anyone to buy a subsidized phone, though the fact that cell plans do not include a BYOD discount is a problem.<br>
><br>
> Last fall, I contacted t-mobile to get a locked phone unlocked prior to an overseas trip. About 5 days later an email arrived with the unlock code. No real difficulty at all, except the wait.<br>
><br>
> Remember when cell phones were a convenience?<br>
><br>
<br>
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