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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">I was going to say you were wrong but found a link (see below) that confirms RHEL4 is in “Extended Life” support through 2015.&nbsp;&nbsp; Its Production life ended last
 February which was what I thought was its EOL date.&nbsp;&nbsp; We did migrate off our last RHEL4 system about mid-year last year.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">It’s only been a couple of years since we finally got rid of our last RH 9 or worse yet a couple of old RH 7.3 systems inherited when I got here 8 years ago.&nbsp;&nbsp;
 It wouldn’t surprise me to find many places are still running similar old systems.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Sometimes it is difficult to move legacy applications because they simply don’t understand newer libraries and layouts.&nbsp;&nbsp; Convincing management that is a good
 reason to dump the legacy stuff is often a challenge especially if the maker of that application is long since gone and it requires training folks how to use something entirely new.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">What is really maddening to me is how often we do move 90% of things off to newer platforms but have to keep the old ones around for that last 10%.&nbsp;&nbsp; I’ve seen
 this with those old RedHat systems, BSD,&nbsp; HP-UX and (OMG) AS-400 since I’ve been here.&nbsp;&nbsp; Usually you have to wait for the old hardware to die at which point the reason for running the application seems to get outweighed by the cost of repairs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> ale-bounces@ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jim Kinney<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 08, 2013 8:14 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ale] FW: Redhat Linux 9.0 Admin and Redhat Linux 9.0 General skills are in demand. Come back to Elance and get hired today!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p>That's scary!<br>
RedHat extended the life of RHEL 4 by request and it's too long in the tooth even fully patched for exposure to interwebs.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Feb 8, 2013 7:28 PM, &lt;<a href="mailto:simontek@gmail.com">simontek@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">&quot;Since when in the past 5 years has anyone want someone whel Red Hat 9 skills? It came out 10 years ago. &quot; -
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Hi SimonTek,<br>
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Clients are hiring Elancers with your unique skills - now!&nbsp; Many of the following jobs have only a few proposals submitted (hint, hint). Login now and start earning today.<br>
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</span><strong><u><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#333333">Your Skills Are In Demand
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<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#333333">Redhat Linux 9.0 Admin</span></strong><o:p></o:p></p>
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 open jobs at Elance</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<strong><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">And since you've been gone, we've added more Free Connects too.</span></strong><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Getting hired today is even easier at Elance. You now get at least 40 Connects each month, giving you more opportunities to land jobs.</span><br>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Plus you'll find lots of other great new features at Elance since you last dropped by.</span><br>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Come back to Elance today. Great things await you.</span><br>
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