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Yeah Jim, I'm starting to feel like that.<br>
<br>
I appreciate all the information. Frankly, it's starting to make my
eyes cross. I'm going to have to revisit some of the technical details
when my brain is a bit less foggy. I think it's supper time. That
must be the problem. I tried wireshark on Windows 7 64 bit to try to
snoop on my own pc's on my wlan. I never succeeded, even though I know
the psk. I'm sure other more knowledgeable people would probably
succeed.<br>
<br>
Here's what I think I've gotten from the discussion:<br>
<br>
A) Sitting on open wifi, non ssl / vpn traffic. Anybody (with
knowledge, tools, and motive) can see whatever I do.<br>
<br>
B) Sitting on shared password WEP wifi, non ssl / vpn traffic. Anybody
can see whatever I do.<br>
<br>
C) Sitting on shared password WPA wifi, non ssl / vpn traffic. Anybody
that captures my logon sequence can see whatever I do.<br>
<br>
D) Sitting on any network, using email in SSL mode. ASSUMING that the
client brings up the SSL connection before exchanging authentication
data, I should be OK.<br>
<br>
E) Sitting on any network, going to the bank. ASSUMING I'm in SSL mode
before entering my login credentials, I should be OK.<br>
<br>
F) Using a commercial VPN like HotspotVpn and ASSUMING they configured
it properly, anything I do should be OK data wise. However, there
still may be vulnerabilities in the networking stack / firewall that
I'm still exposed to.<br>
<br>
Hopefully that is the main gist of it.<br>
<br>
Sincerely,<br>
<br>
Ron<br>
<br>
<br>
On 1/23/2013 4:28 PM, Jim Kinney wrote:
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Get off the Internet and read a dead-tree book you got from a trusted
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a jail. What you gain at one end you lose at the other. It's like
feeding a dog on his own tail. It won't fatten the dog.<br>
- Speech 11/23/1900 Mark Twain<br>
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