In LA it is. Also you must follow traffic laws. I really wish they would enforce those laws. Can&#39;t tell you how many cyclist run red lights/stop signs. <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 9:21 PM, Geoffrey Myers <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:lists@serioustechnology.com" target="_blank">lists@serioustechnology.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>As an avid cyclist, that one would be a new one to me. Everywhere I&#39;ve ever lived it was against the law to ride a bike on a sidewalk. I&#39;ll have to do some research. <div class="im">
<br><br><div>--</div><div>From my iP<span>hone</span></div><div>Geoffrey Myers</div></div></div><div><div class="h5"><div><br>On Jan 12, 2013, at 5:36 PM, Jim Kinney &lt;<a href="mailto:jim.kinney@gmail.com" target="_blank">jim.kinney@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><p>Sidewalk riding is legal when there is no marked bike lane.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Jan 12, 2013 11:24 AM, &quot;Jay Lozier&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:jslozier@gmail.com" target="_blank">jslozier@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">


  
    
  
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    <div>On 01/12/2013 10:45 AM, Charles Shapiro
      wrote:<br>
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        <div>Quit your job and find one  you can commute to on your
          bicycle.  The best solution I have found to  traffic is to
          avoid it.<br>
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        -- CHS<br>
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    Or telecommute., the commute is from bed to chair via kitchen for
    coffee.<br>
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    As bicycle commuter I have found and GDOT confirmed there are
    several metro Atlanta jurisdictions who do not know the traffic laws
    for bicycles (you are a vehicle with full privileges to your lane
    and you lane position is dictated by road and traffic conditions and
    riding on the sidewalk is technically illegal). Depending on where
    you live you will periodically be given a ticket by one of the local
    morons in blue and have to waste a day in court clearly your name.
    It is funny to watch the prosecutor&#39;s reaction when you plead Not
    Guilty and can produce the relevant parts of the statute proving the
    ticket is bogus.<br>
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          On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Matthew <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:simontek@gmail.com" target="_blank">simontek@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
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            Btw when I was in ATL a couple weeks ago, I missed Indiana
            drivers. In Indy, during rush hour, most times, the traffic
            report is nil, if there is an issue, people pull over, help
            out, and others just keep going. I have only once seen a
            bottleneck at an accident. Most people seem to know how to
            drive. I was in ATL for about 3 hours, then thought, wow, I
            miss Indy. <br>
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                <div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 10:13
                  AM, Matthew <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:simontek@gmail.com" target="_blank">simontek@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
                  wrote:<br>
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                    Hey, I live in Indiana. Btw I have lived everywhere.
                    Usually when that happens, I get out of the car, and
                    direct traffic. Also I volunteer for the American
                    Red Cross&#39;s DAT. (Disaster Action Team). Take a look
                    if you get a chance. <br>
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                        <div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at
                          8:53 AM, George Allen <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:glallen01@gmail.com" target="_blank">glallen01@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
                          wrote:<br>
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                            <p dir="ltr">I&#39;ll second that. I grew up and
                              learned how to drive in Texas, and good
                              manners was also part of the instruction.
                              Then again, I&#39;ve had people guess I was
                              from Texas just because Texans still know
                              the words sir and ma&#39;am.</p>
                            <p dir="ltr">But I could do ok without
                              .50cals and mk19s.... I just wish all cars
                              had very bright red strobe light that
                              started flashing when going over 45mph,
                              and it detects another car within two car
                              lenghts. Sortof a shock collar for
                              tailgaiters.</p>
                            <p dir="ltr">Just the other day on 75 I was
                              dri ving along at about the speed limit at
                              night with light rain, no one in the rear
                              view. Then looked away for a second, then
                              glanced back and there was a car that had
                              cut over from my right, but was so close I
                              couldn&#39;t see its headlights... probably
                              half a car length at full speed on the
                              highway. No one has fast enough reaction
                              time to deal with that type of stupid...
                              people wanting to do nascar drafting and
                              cut you off for using turn signals. I
                              actually saw a 5 car pileup happen in the
                              lane right next to me on the connector one
                              morning because of this. Some one cut in
                              too close to one guy, couldnt react when
                              that guy slowed down because he was
                              tailgaiting too, and bumpercars ensued.</p>
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                                <div class="gmail_quote">On Jan 12, 2013
                                  7:59 AM, &quot;Mike Harrison&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:cluon@geeklabs.com" target="_blank">cluon@geeklabs.com</a>&gt;
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                                    On Fri, 11 Jan 2013, Geoffrey Myers
                                    wrote:<br>
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                                      Whereas in Texas, drivers will
                                      routinely pull on the shoulder to
                                      let you pass when on a two lane
                                      highway. Well, they did in the<br>
                                      late &#39;70s....<br>
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                                    In Texas, even through the 80&#39;s it
                                    was that way. You &quot;drive friendly&quot;
                                    in a place where other drivers are
                                    probably well armed and have a beer
                                    in their hands..<br>
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                                    I was just in Dallas for a week,
                                    while it seems the open container
                                    law has changed, they still drive
                                    armed (I love Texas!) and mostly
                                    still.. &quot;drive friendly&quot;.<br>
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