<p>Time to go back to fat32 for drives <2TB.</p>
<div class="gmail_quot<blockquote class=" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Phil and others,<br>
<br>
I discovered some really ugly complications regarding using NTFS with 4K drives. It doesn't look good for XP. Anyone who maintains Windows systems needs to see these MS support docs.<br>
<br>
<a href="http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2510009" target="_blank">http://support.microsoft.com/<u></u>kb/2510009</a><br>
<a href="http://support.microsoft.com/kb/982018" target="_blank">http://support.microsoft.com/<u></u>kb/982018</a><br>
<a href="http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2553708" target="_blank">http://support.microsoft.com/<u></u>kb/2553708</a><br>
<br>
Sincerely,<br>
<br>
Ron<br>
<br>
<br>
On 1/7/2013 4:50 PM, Phil Turmel wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Hi Ron,<br>
<br>
On 01/07/2013 01:04 PM, Ron Frazier (ALE) wrote:<br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Hi Phil,<br>
<br>
OK, I guess I left myself open for that.<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
:-)<br>
<br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
I'll make the bet under the following criteria. I have to clarify<br>
some things so we're on the same page. Here's what you have to do to<br>
win.<br>
<br>
You must get Windows XP running on bare metal on an advanced format<br>
HDD , partitioned on 1 MiB boundaries, with XP's own bootloader as<br>
follows:<br>
<br>
* This bet is between Ron Frazier and Phil Turmel only. No other<br>
participants can claim the prize. Helpers are allowed.<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
* Windows XP must be running on bare metal, no virtual machines.<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
* The storage medium must be a hard drive, not an ssd or a hybrid<br>
drive.<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
* The hard drive must have 4 KB physical sectors. This must be<br>
documented on the hard drive maker's site. Please provide a link.<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
Seagate Barracuda Green:<br>
<a href="http://www.seagate.com/internal-hard-drives/desktop-hard-drives/barracuda-green/" target="_blank">http://www.seagate.com/<u></u>internal-hard-drives/desktop-<u></u>hard-drives/barracuda-green/</a><br>
<br>
# smartctl -i /dev/sdf<br>
smartctl 5.42 2011-10-20 r3458 [x86_64-linux-3.6.2] (local build)<br>
Copyright (C) 2002-11 by Bruce Allen, <a href="http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net" target="_blank">http://smartmontools.<u></u>sourceforge.net</a><br>
<br>
=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===<br>
Model Family: Seagate Barracuda Green (Adv. Format)<br>
Device Model: ST2000DL003-9VT166<br>
Serial Number: 5YD2EZNB<br>
LU WWN Device Id: 5 000c50 032ffff5b<br>
Firmware Version: CC32<br>
User Capacity: 2,000,398,934,016 bytes [2.00 TB]<br>
Sector Size: 512 bytes logical/physical<br>
Device is: In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]<br>
ATA Version is: 8<br>
ATA Standard is: ATA-8-ACS revision 4<br>
Local Time is: Mon Jan 7 16:10:20 2013 EST<br>
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.<br>
SMART support is: Enabled<br>
<br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
* You may NOT use the jumper on some drives that lies to the pc and<br>
claims sector 64 is 63.<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
Not applicable for a partition starting at 2048, but no, no such<br>
twiddling on my part.<br>
<br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
* AFTER the XP installation. The first partition of the hard drive<br>
must begin on sector 2048 according to gparted. A screenshot of the<br>
gparted information screen for that partition will act as proof. If<br>
Windows XP repartitions the drive during installation and changes<br>
the beginning sector, it must be repartitioned again to put the<br>
beginning sector at 2048. The hard should use MBR format.<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
If XP repartitions during install when I tell it to use the partition I<br>
prepared for it, I'll concede the bet.<br>
<br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
* Windows XP must be installed on the first partition.<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
* Once the installation is done, Windows XP must boot and load<br>
properly on the above referenced hard drive.. A screenshot of the<br>
my computer properties screen will act as proof.<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
* Windows XP must boot with its own native bootloader. If you have<br>
to repair a failed boot sequence, you may use only the Windows XP<br>
install disk, not Windows Vista or 7 or 8. If you use a Linux tool<br>
to repair a broken boot sequence, you cannot replace the Windows XP<br>
bootloader. Booting to Grub, for example, is not allowed.<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
I expect no repair required.<br>
<br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
* Results of the testing should be published here to ALE with<br>
screenshots linked to in a publicly accessible place.<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
* If you get it working, you have to tell the rest of us how you did<br>
it.<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
Of course.<br>
<br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
If you get it working under these conditions, I will buy you a drink<br>
up to $ 5. If you try and fail, I get the $ 5.<br>
<br>
Let me know what you think. 8-)<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
You're on. And I'll buy Jim a drink anyways.<br>
<br>
Phil<br>
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