<div dir="ltr"><div>Aha. Solved. You need to explicitly clean before building to re-gen R.java. The eclipse builder apparently isn't as smart as make(1).<br><br></div>-- CHS<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Charles Shapiro <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hooterpincher@gmail.com" target="_blank">hooterpincher@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><div>OTOH I have been struggling with Eclipse and Android for a couple of days now. I've gotten it to believe that my "Hello World" app is actually a project, but it won't re-generate the R.java file, which is created from the various and sundry XML files which specify things like screens and strings. It's an ongoing wrangle, but I could sure use someone who really knows Eclipse, even though I've already created the application at the command-line.<br>
<br></div>-- CHS<br></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 6:48 AM, Mike Harrison <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cluon@geeklabs.com" target="_blank">cluon@geeklabs.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Shapiro waxed poetic:<div><br>
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So heck, maybes this is the Way the World will Go, and us happy hard-workin' coders will merely be weird old fossils in a universe of<br>
sunglasses-wearing HTML writers.<br>
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In the real world, where bandwidth, CPU, memory,<br>
and -long term- reliability and maintainability are issues,<br>
fossils like us kick ass,<br>
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I can get more done with just a shell on a far away linux system than most "developers" can do using the latest IDE and kewl language of the week.<br>
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10 lines of perl can be a powerful thing.<br>
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Three weeks ago I tought a young man to not trust his IDE with all the supported options and commands. His code would not connect. It did not have: CURLOPT_SSL_VERIFYPEER and CURLOPT_SSL_VERIFYHOST as options in his IDE, he did not RTFM. While the people that built the drop down pick-list of PHP options may have had valid reasons for not including these standard options, he had become so dependant upon these crutches he was limited by them. He had to connect to an internal IP address with a self-signed cert. Impossible he said.. He was not comfortable with a shell on the production server, or scp.. or.. or.. and was cutting and pasting code chunks from Eclipse into a server side web based file browser.... But he was very bright.<br>
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A recent email from Antony exposes that he is playing with ssh, scp, Geany, jEdit and vi and learning to "get naked with code" in his words.<br>
Antony is starting to understand where an IDE is useful, and that there are sometimes more appropriate options. It is A tool, it should not be<br>
your only tool.<br>
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The role of us old fossils is to expose follies and teach.<br>
Sometimes with a clue bat in our hands.<div><div><br>
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