<p>As a newcomer, i am faced with an interesting challenge before me: learn .NET/C# in order to become a programmer in my current employment or do I learn Java/C++/Perl/Ruby and try my chances elsewhere?</p>
<p>My passion is computers and i fear being struck into a cast of M$ developer only. I want to write code because it's a great mental exercise, not just for the money.</p>
<p>Any good thoughts on where to start? Side note: Planning to finish a M.S. in computer science in July, paid by my employer with no commitment to stay after completion.</p>
<p>Jonathan<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Dec 27, 2012 11:13 AM, "Jim Kinney" <<a href="mailto:jim.kinney@gmail.com">jim.kinney@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Charles Shapiro<br>
<<a href="mailto:hooterpincher@gmail.com">hooterpincher@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> OTOH I have been struggling with Eclipse and Android for a couple of days<br>
> now. I've gotten it to believe that my "Hello World" app is actually a<br>
> project, but it won't re-generate the R.java file, which is created from the<br>
> various and sundry XML files which specify things like screens and strings.<br>
> It's an ongoing wrangle, but I could sure use someone who really knows<br>
> Eclipse, even though I've already created the application at the<br>
> command-line.<br>
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Eclipse: when a luminous body is obscured from view.<br>
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> On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 6:48 AM, Mike Harrison <<a href="mailto:cluon@geeklabs.com">cluon@geeklabs.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Shapiro waxed poetic:<br>
>><br>
>>> So heck, maybes this is the Way the World will Go, and us happy<br>
>>> hard-workin' coders will merely be weird old fossils in a universe of<br>
>>> sunglasses-wearing HTML writers.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> In the real world, where bandwidth, CPU, memory,<br>
>> and -long term- reliability and maintainability are issues,<br>
>> fossils like us kick ass,<br>
>><br>
>> I can get more done with just a shell on a far away linux system than most<br>
>> "developers" can do using the latest IDE and kewl language of the week.<br>
>><br>
>> 10 lines of perl can be a powerful thing.<br>
>><br>
>> Three weeks ago I tought a young man to not trust his IDE with all the<br>
>> supported options and commands. His code would not connect. It did not have:<br>
>> CURLOPT_SSL_VERIFYPEER and CURLOPT_SSL_VERIFYHOST as options in his IDE, he<br>
>> did not RTFM. While the people that built the drop down pick-list of PHP<br>
>> options may have had valid reasons for not including these standard options,<br>
>> he had become so dependant upon these crutches he was limited by them. He<br>
>> had to connect to an internal IP address with a self-signed cert. Impossible<br>
>> he said.. He was not comfortable with a shell on the production server, or<br>
>> scp.. or.. or.. and was cutting and pasting code chunks from Eclipse into a<br>
>> server side web based file browser.... But he was very bright.<br>
>><br>
>> A recent email from Antony exposes that he is playing with ssh, scp,<br>
>> Geany, jEdit and vi and learning to "get naked with code" in his words.<br>
>> Antony is starting to understand where an IDE is useful, and that there<br>
>> are sometimes more appropriate options. It is A tool, it should not be<br>
>> your only tool.<br>
>><br>
>> The role of us old fossils is to expose follies and teach.<br>
>> Sometimes with a clue bat in our hands.<br>
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