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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/13/2012 11:49 AM, Jonathan Meek
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<p><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://m.nextgov.com/cloud-computing/2012/10/op-ed-encryption-not-restriction-key-safe-cloud-computing/58608/">http://m.nextgov.com/cloud-computing/2012/10/op-ed-encryption-not-restriction-key-safe-cloud-computing/58608/</a>
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<p>Sorry about that. I goofed.</p>
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My problem is less the security of encrypted data but with the
physical location of the data. Some of the concern is the local
political stability and attitudes and part of is
technical/commercial. <br>
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Data stored in a relatively stable country (say Canada, Australia,
or Japan) is probably relatively safe from local political mischief
but in other, less stable countries I am not so sure about that.
First any encryption algorithm can be cracked with enough
time/computing power thrown at it. Also, how the people with access
to the equipment vetted; some of the information should be not be
near by any who has not been vetted (security clearance, etc.).
Compounding this with the locals loyalty is to their country not
any other foreign country.<br>
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The technical/commercial is that offshore facilities may not be in
the same time zone as the users. This potentially creates support
problems of the data center being on third shift to support users on
first shift. Third shift is always a difficult shift to staff
because many do not adapt well to it; I worked third shift for
several years. The technical issue is how stable is the local
infrastructure; are they subject to local outages that make the data
unreachable or unusable. The data may be scattered in several
locations but is all the necessary data together so an outage would
be all or nothing.<br>
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Personally, I find many of the Cloud promoters overlook other issues
that should be included in the decision besides absolute costs. And
my question what is the difference topologically between a third
party Cloud provider and an internal data center? The main
difference I see is how it is budgeted; someone has to provide the
physical infrastructure and you are going to pay for it. The costs
are either primarily internal - your data center and staff - or
external - someone else's data center and staff.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Nov 13, 2012 11:27 AM, "Tim Watts"
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Care to feed us a link?<br>
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On Tue, 2012-11-13 at 08:24 -0500, Jonathan Meek wrote:<br>
> Guys,<br>
><br>
> Came across this article on keys and cloud services. It
makes the<br>
> argument that customer controlled keys makes a step in
the right<br>
> direction and could help governments take advantage of
cloud<br>
> computing.<br>
><br>
> Just food for thought.<br>
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> Jonathan<br>
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