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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">What Scott's referring to is RHEV
compute nodes are available in thick or thin hypervisor models
somewhat like the ESX vs ESXi hypervisor distinction in VMware<br>
<br>
- you can take a standard RHEL box, make sure it has the
appropriate KVM, libvirt, etc RPMs installed, and point it at your
RHEV manager. That has one licensing model, but gives you compute
nodes that are full standard Linux servers with all the
accompanying pluses and minuses<br>
<br>
- you can deploy RHEV-H which is a very stripped down embeddable
install -- essentially just a Linux kernel, KVM userspace tools,
and the glue needed to make it go and communicate with the
manager. It's licensed slightly differently, but gives you
streamlined dedicated compute nodes with reduced attack surfaces,
etc that can potentially be run from flash<br>
<br>
You can mix and match the two hypervisor types as needed under the
control of the same manager<br>
<br>
<br>
On 10/30/12 9:21 AM, Jim Kinney wrote:<br>
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<p>I thought rhev-h was the hypervisor. I have one of those plu a
manager box and a storage server with iscsi. Plus the requisite
IPA server.only the manager and hypervisor are rhel. Others are
centos. Stack supports adding generic kvm server stacks as virt
hosts as long as ovurt tools are installed. </p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Oct 30, 2012 8:55 AM, "Scott McBrien"
<<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:smcbrien@gmail.com">smcbrien@gmail.com</a>>
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Allen,<br>
<br>
RHEV can either use a RHEL hypervisor (which you pay your
normal pricing for RHEL) or a more appliance-y RHEL based
distro called RHEV-H which has its own pricing.<br>
<br>
If you're interested in evaluating RHEV, it might be worth
while to take the RH318 training class. I see a lot of people
check it out that way.<br>
<br>
-Scott<br>
<br>
On Oct 29, 2012, at 11:59 PM, "Beddingfield, Allen" <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:allen@ua.edu">allen@ua.edu</a>>
wrote:<br>
<br>
> So what does it end up approximately costing you
per-host? Our cost per-physical host for RHEL is higher than
our cost for VMware Enterprise Plus on a 4 socket server :)<br>
> If we were going that route, I would probably do KVM on
SUSE SLES with the libvirt tools or Citrix XenServer, since we
already have both of those in house.<br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Allen Beddingfield<br>
> Systems Engineer<br>
> The University of Alabama<br>
> ________________________________<br>
> From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org">ale-bounces@ale.org</a> [<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org">ale-bounces@ale.org</a>]
on behalf of Jim Kinney [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:jim.kinney@gmail.com">jim.kinney@gmail.com</a>]<br>
> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 9:54 PM<br>
> To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts<br>
> Subject: Re: [ale] snarky use of RedHat - heh, heh<br>
><br>
><br>
> RHEL is a different pricing structure than VMWare. Vmware
has limits per tier on cpu sockets but not redhat.<br>
> Virt stuff is all gpl from rh. Manager will be in Centos
once no longer beta. Use licensees for high profile stuff and
centos for others.<br>
><br>
> On Oct 29, 2012 9:19 PM, "Beddingfield, Allen" <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:allen@ua.edu">allen@ua.edu</a><mailto:<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:allen@ua.edu">allen@ua.edu</a>>>
wrote:<br>
> While I do not doubt that VMware has valid reasons to be
quaking in their boots, I'm not sure that Redhat would be the
cause. From my experience, they aren't much less expensive
than VMware :) Of course, my perspective may be a bit skewed.
I am in higher-ed, where everything is influenced by how large
the academic discount will be. Redhat's academic discounts
are small compared with those of their competitors. It would
probably work out more expensive for us to switch to RHEV.<br>
> Allen B.<br>
> --<br>
> Allen Beddingfield<br>
> Systems Engineer<br>
> The University of Alabama<br>
><br>
> ________________________________________<br>
> From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org">ale-bounces@ale.org</a><mailto:<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org">ale-bounces@ale.org</a>>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org">ale-bounces@ale.org</a><mailto:<a
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on behalf of Jim Kinney [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jim.kinney@gmail.com">jim.kinney@gmail.com</a>>]<br>
> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 5:25 PM<br>
> To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!<br>
> Subject: [ale] snarky use of RedHat - heh, heh<br>
><br>
> for those that have known me for a while, my loathing of
all things<br>
> Microsoft is legendary. I saw the light of FREEDOM in
1992 and fully<br>
> embraced "My True Calling" in 1997. But sometimes people
pay me to<br>
> kick a windwoes machine around the block.<br>
><br>
> I finished a set up of RedHat Enterprise Virtualization
3.1 Beta (only<br>
> slightly easier than a simultaneous root canal and
colonoscopy with no<br>
> pain killers.) and they have succeeded in removing the
horrid<br>
> requirement of needed a WindWoes system to run the RHEV
Manager gui.<br>
> It's a JBOSS stack and the preferred console interface is
spice.<br>
><br>
> It works quite well. Some bits are "different" but I am
loading up a<br>
> Win7 as a test OS. If that pile of crap will load,
ANYTHING will run!<br>
><br>
> This should have VMWare quaking in their boots.<br>
><br>
> Wolf- It finally worked!<br>
><br>
> --<br>
> --<br>
> James P. Kinney III<br>
><br>
> Every time you stop a school, you will have to build a
jail. What you<br>
> gain at one end you lose at the other. It's like feeding
a dog on his<br>
> own tail. It won't fatten the dog.<br>
> - Speech 11/23/1900 Mark Twain<br>
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