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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">At my last job I deployed a few RHEV
clusters instead of VMware precisely because of the cost
differential. For us (mid-sized enterprise, an established VMware
and Red Hat account) the RHEV licensing PLUS the servers to run it
on cost less than just the equivalent VMware software licensing
would have cost. Though, in fairness, that was compared and
purchased in the dark time when VMware was charging a memory tax
on top of the regular CPU-based licensing. I think they've
recently removed that from VMware due to competitive price
pressure :-)<br>
<br>
If you go to <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.redhat.com/products/virtualization/">http://www.redhat.com/products/virtualization/</a> and
click the "Cost advantage" link towards the bottom it'll bring up
an ROI calculator based off list pricing so you can get a good
feel how it would cost for you based on your chosen support level,
preferred server sizing, etc. It'll also give you a list-based TCO
comparison of RH vs Microsoft and VMware...<br>
<br>
<br>
On 10/30/12 8:01 AM, Jim Kinney wrote:<br>
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<p>I don't know cost. I have access to this through partner
license stuff. </p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Oct 30, 2012 12:01 AM, "Beddingfield,
Allen" <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:allen@ua.edu">allen@ua.edu</a>>
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So what does it end up approximately costing you per-host?
Our cost per-physical host for RHEL is higher than our cost
for VMware Enterprise Plus on a 4 socket server :)<br>
If we were going that route, I would probably do KVM on SUSE
SLES with the libvirt tools or Citrix XenServer, since we
already have both of those in house.<br>
<br>
--<br>
Allen Beddingfield<br>
Systems Engineer<br>
The University of Alabama<br>
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Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 9:54 PM<br>
To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts<br>
Subject: Re: [ale] snarky use of RedHat - heh, heh<br>
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RHEL is a different pricing structure than VMWare. Vmware has
limits per tier on cpu sockets but not redhat.<br>
Virt stuff is all gpl from rh. Manager will be in Centos once
no longer beta. Use licensees for high profile stuff and
centos for others.<br>
<br>
On Oct 29, 2012 9:19 PM, "Beddingfield, Allen" <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:allen@ua.edu">allen@ua.edu</a><mailto:<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:allen@ua.edu">allen@ua.edu</a>>>
wrote:<br>
While I do not doubt that VMware has valid reasons to be
quaking in their boots, I'm not sure that Redhat would be the
cause. From my experience, they aren't much less expensive
than VMware :) Of course, my perspective may be a bit skewed.
I am in higher-ed, where everything is influenced by how large
the academic discount will be. Redhat's academic discounts
are small compared with those of their competitors. It would
probably work out more expensive for us to switch to RHEV.<br>
Allen B.<br>
--<br>
Allen Beddingfield<br>
Systems Engineer<br>
The University of Alabama<br>
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Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 5:25 PM<br>
To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!<br>
Subject: [ale] snarky use of RedHat - heh, heh<br>
<br>
for those that have known me for a while, my loathing of all
things<br>
Microsoft is legendary. I saw the light of FREEDOM in 1992 and
fully<br>
embraced "My True Calling" in 1997. But sometimes people pay
me to<br>
kick a windwoes machine around the block.<br>
<br>
I finished a set up of RedHat Enterprise Virtualization 3.1
Beta (only<br>
slightly easier than a simultaneous root canal and colonoscopy
with no<br>
pain killers.) and they have succeeded in removing the horrid<br>
requirement of needed a WindWoes system to run the RHEV
Manager gui.<br>
It's a JBOSS stack and the preferred console interface is
spice.<br>
<br>
It works quite well. Some bits are "different" but I am
loading up a<br>
Win7 as a test OS. If that pile of crap will load, ANYTHING
will run!<br>
<br>
This should have VMWare quaking in their boots.<br>
<br>
Wolf- It finally worked!<br>
<br>
--<br>
--<br>
James P. Kinney III<br>
<br>
Every time you stop a school, you will have to build a jail.
What you<br>
gain at one end you lose at the other. It's like feeding a dog
on his<br>
own tail. It won't fatten the dog.<br>
- Speech 11/23/1900 Mark Twain<br>
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