I just posted a picture of it. <a href="http://simontekhacks.blogspot.com/">http://simontekhacks.blogspot.com/</a><br><br>Its a turion cpu. It doesn&#39;t pull much power, and near silent. Looks like 42w<br><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zbjGywEkTA">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zbjGywEkTA</a> <br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 12:09 AM, Cameron Kilgore <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:ghostfreeman@gmail.com" target="_blank">ghostfreeman@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
How&#39;s the power consumption on that ProLiant? Can you share the blog post in question?<div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br clear="all">--Cameron</font></span><div><div class="h5"><a href="http://ghostfreeman.net" target="_blank"></a><span onmouseout="cancel = false; window.setTimeout(WRCHideContent, 1000); clearTimeout(showTimer);" onmouseover=" var self = this; showTimer = window.setTimeout(function(){WRCShowContent({&#39;rating&#39;:{&#39;value&#39;:-1,&#39;weight&#39;:-1},&#39;flags&#39;:{},&#39;single&#39;:true,&#39;ttl&#39;:7200,&#39;expireTime&#39;:&#39;20120917021132&#39;}, self.className)},600);" class="wrc0" style="padding-right:16px;width:16px;height:16px"></span><br>

<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 11:50 PM,  <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:simontek@gmail.com" target="_blank">simontek@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">


I have this: <a href="http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF05a/15351-15351-4237916-4237918-4237917-4248009.html?dnr=1" target="_blank">http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF05a/15351-15351-4237916-4237918-4237917-4248009.html?dnr=1</a><span onmouseout="cancel = false; window.setTimeout(WRCHideContent, 1000); clearTimeout(showTimer);" onmouseover=" var self = this; showTimer = window.setTimeout(function(){WRCShowContent({&#39;rating&#39;:{&#39;value&#39;:-1,&#39;weight&#39;:-1},&#39;flags&#39;:{&#39;shopping&#39;:null,&#39;social&#39;:null,&#39;news&#39;:null,&#39;it&#39;:null,&#39;corporate&#39;:null,&#39;pornography&#39;:null,&#39;violence&#39;:null,&#39;gambling&#39;:null,&#39;drugs&#39;:null,&#39;illegal&#39;:null},&#39;single&#39;:true,&#39;ttl&#39;:null}, self.className)},600);" class="wrc0" style="padding-right:16px;width:16px;height:16px"></span> I bought it new on newegg for $249 last year. I have been happy with it. You can put MS WHS, or FreeNAS, or a custom setup for it. <br>


<a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816401170" target="_blank">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816401170</a><span onmouseout="cancel = false; window.setTimeout(WRCHideContent, 1000); clearTimeout(showTimer);" onmouseover=" var self = this; showTimer = window.setTimeout(function(){WRCShowContent({&#39;rating&#39;:{&#39;value&#39;:-1,&#39;weight&#39;:-1},&#39;flags&#39;:{&#39;shopping&#39;:null,&#39;social&#39;:null,&#39;news&#39;:null,&#39;it&#39;:null,&#39;corporate&#39;:null,&#39;pornography&#39;:null,&#39;violence&#39;:null,&#39;gambling&#39;:null,&#39;drugs&#39;:null,&#39;illegal&#39;:null},&#39;single&#39;:true,&#39;ttl&#39;:null}, self.className)},600);" class="wrc0" style="padding-right:16px;width:16px;height:16px"></span> I want to get this for it.<br>
<a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-TM4QnTDSJLk/TvngeYiG4SI/AAAAAAAAALM/MM5xYev4Spw/s1600/IMG-20111206-00180.jpg" target="_blank">http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-TM4QnTDSJLk/TvngeYiG4SI/AAAAAAAAALM/MM5xYev4Spw/s1600/IMG-20111206-00180.jpg</a><span onmouseout="cancel = false; window.setTimeout(WRCHideContent, 1000); clearTimeout(showTimer);" onmouseover=" var self = this; showTimer = window.setTimeout(function(){WRCShowContent({&#39;rating&#39;:{&#39;value&#39;:-1,&#39;weight&#39;:-1},&#39;flags&#39;:{&#39;shopping&#39;:null,&#39;social&#39;:null,&#39;news&#39;:null,&#39;it&#39;:null,&#39;corporate&#39;:null,&#39;pornography&#39;:null,&#39;violence&#39;:null,&#39;gambling&#39;:null,&#39;drugs&#39;:null,&#39;illegal&#39;:null},&#39;single&#39;:true,&#39;ttl&#39;:null}, self.className)},600);" class="wrc0" style="padding-right:16px;width:16px;height:16px"></span><br>


The motherboard (from my blog) supports a mini-sas connector, internal usb port, 16x PCIe slot, you can use non-ecc with it if you want to. The motherboard slides out. its a nice little setup.<div><div>

<br><br><br>On , Cameron Kilgore &lt;<a href="mailto:ghostfreeman@gmail.com" target="_blank">ghostfreeman@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; I&#39;d like to know more about performance with Atom, since I imagine using ZFS and FreeNAS can be CPU-intensive.<br>


&gt; <br>&gt; I&#39;m definitely not looking for more than 2 SATA plugs to do RAID 1 mirroring, but i&#39;ll check out the Supermicro boards.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; --Cameron<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 8:51 PM, Greg Clifton <a href="mailto:gccfof5@gmail.com" target="_blank">gccfof5@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>


&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; One problem with many of the Atom and Hudson A350 boards is a minimal number of SATA ports ( often only 2). If you are interested in an Atom board with more SATA ports, check out Supermicro&#39;s embedded product line, they have some with 4 or more SATA ports, but they ain&#39;t cheap. I recently came across a nano board that VIA is evidently producing in response to the Raspberry Pi and similar such products. It has 2 SATA ports and a quad core processor. Looks like it would make an adequate board to base a mirrored pair of drives off of, when it is available. I could envision such a device with a pair of hard drives &quot;living&quot; in the same case as a desktop system that might be your &quot;main&quot; computer. The article says the price is not yet set, but surely it will be less than $100: <br>


&gt; <a href="http://www.geek.com/articles/chips/via-launches-tiny-quad-core-x86-epia-p910-board-2012097/" target="_blank">http://www.geek.com/articles/chips/via-launches-tiny-quad-core-x86-epia-p910-board-2012097/</a><span onmouseout="cancel = false; window.setTimeout(WRCHideContent, 1000); clearTimeout(showTimer);" onmouseover=" var self = this; showTimer = window.setTimeout(function(){WRCShowContent({&#39;rating&#39;:{&#39;value&#39;:95,&#39;weight&#39;:19},&#39;flags&#39;:{},&#39;single&#39;:true,&#39;ttl&#39;:7200,&#39;expireTime&#39;:&#39;20120917021132&#39;}, self.className)},600);" class="wrc11" style="padding-right:16px;width:16px;height:16px"></span> <br>


&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; I would love to hear anybody&#39;s experience that has used an Atom, or esp. an A350 board for a NAS box, because that is an idea that I have been kicking around.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>


&gt; GC<br>&gt; <br>&gt; On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 4:59 PM, JD <a href="mailto:jdp@algoloma.com" target="_blank">jdp@algoloma.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; Backups don&#39;t need RAID. You want RAID on the main storage, if that is a<br>


&gt; <br>&gt; requirement.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; For simple backups, buy a USB3 dock and connect it to a router with USB ports<br>&gt; <br>&gt; for storage.  Using a dock means he has &quot;unlimited storage&quot;, just swap in a new<br>


&gt; <br>&gt; 2TB hdd when the old one fills up.  If performance isn&#39;t good enough, newer<br>&gt; <br>&gt; routers should support USB3 soon.  Even some of those $50 media streaming<br>&gt; <br>&gt; devices will share USB HDD storage on the network.  I&#39;m positive that a WD-TV<br>


&gt; <br>&gt; Live HD does.  At 100base-tx, it is painfully slow compared to everything else<br>&gt; <br>&gt; that is GigE connected here.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; USB3 is not a good idea for anything other than backups or streaming media,<br>


&gt; <br>&gt; IMHO. There has been a queuing issue with USB for years. It handles 1 or 2<br>&gt; <br>&gt; different requests at a time nicely, but not 5-20 like a full OS will make.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; There are eSATA docks for that, but then he needs to leave a PC on all the time.<br>


&gt; <br>&gt; eSATA behaves just like internal disks. Same performance, same command set.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; I wouldn&#39;t completely knock out building a NAS-PC either.  The AMD APUs and Atom<br>&gt; <br>


&gt; APUs can use 20W of power + however many HDDs are inside.  Last month if saw<br>&gt; <br>&gt; (and purchased) a Slickdeal E-350 MB+APU+case for $100. That&#39;s hard to beat on<br>&gt; <br>&gt; the price.  Drop in 1-2G of old RAM and an old HDD means a new system is ready<br>


&gt; <br>&gt; and will be stingy on electricity.  I am not using it as a NAS, but might in the<br>&gt; <br>&gt; future.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; I have a home-built NAS with an external 4 disk array currently. That is primary<br>


&gt; <br>&gt; storage running Linux software RAID.  To back it up, a USB3 WD external disk is<br>&gt; <br>&gt; used. Simple, cheap and effective.  If the backup disk fails - oh well.  That<br>&gt; <br>&gt; same disk array has been moved between systems and Linux installs multiple<br>


&gt; <br>&gt; times. It was a non-event every time, extremely flexible.  Software RAID can be<br>&gt; <br>&gt; slower than HW-RAID.  The RAID5 here is much less speed than a single WD Black<br>&gt; <br>&gt; drive for writes. The OS disk cache is about 4G on that box, so the first 4G of<br>


&gt; <br>&gt; transfer is always 65-75MB/s. Writing large files (10-22G HD recordings) to the<br>&gt; <br>&gt; single Black drive achieves about 40MB/s over the network, after the cache is<br>&gt; <br>&gt; full.  Going to the RAID5 storage might get 10MB/s after the cache is full.<br>


&gt; <br>&gt; Same client, same server, same network, just the storage being written onto is<br>&gt; <br>&gt; different. Guess which drive I transfer new files onto over the network?  To be<br>&gt; <br>&gt; fair, the Black drives are fairly new and the disks in the array are 5.5+ yrs<br>


&gt; <br>&gt; old.  I&#39;m burning in replacement HDDs as I write this.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; With purchased NAS devices, much flexibility is gone. There are limits set by<br>&gt; <br>&gt; the maker. I guess that is what you are asking - about those limitations?<br>


&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; Anyway, I hope these ideas are helpful to finding the best answer for his needs.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; On 09/16/2012 12:56 PM, John Anderson wrote:<br>&gt; <br>


&gt; &gt; I guess the issues other than the basic one of price would be:<br>&gt; <br>&gt; &gt; reliablility.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; <br>&gt; &gt; raid 1<br>&gt; <br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; <br>&gt; &gt; Ability to pop a drive out and read it if the unit fries. Are there<br>


&gt; <br>&gt; &gt; systems with software versus hardware raid? My understanding is that<br>&gt; <br>&gt; &gt; software is easier to recover if the hardware fails.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; <br>&gt; &gt; Transfer speed is probably not an issue. This is more for the first<br>


&gt; <br>&gt; &gt; layer of backup for multiple pc&#39;s in the household. It probably won&#39;t be<br>&gt; <br>&gt; &gt; getting hammered on a regular basis.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; <br>&gt; &gt; On 09/16/2012 12:39 PM, JD wrote:<br>


&gt; <br>&gt; &gt;&gt; On 09/16/2012 12:02 PM, John Anderson wrote:<br>&gt; <br>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Any recommendations/cautions about picking up a home nas? It&#39;s for my<br>&gt; <br>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; brother in law so he probably won&#39;t want a re-purposed PC. Looking to<br>


&gt; <br>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; spend  <br></div></div><div><div>&gt; &gt;&gt; You usually get what you pay for.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; &gt;&gt; <a href="http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/nas/nas-charts/view" target="_blank">http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/nas/nas-charts/view</a><span onmouseout="cancel = false; window.setTimeout(WRCHideContent, 1000); clearTimeout(showTimer);" onmouseover=" var self = this; showTimer = window.setTimeout(function(){WRCShowContent({&#39;rating&#39;:{&#39;value&#39;:100,&#39;weight&#39;:16},&#39;flags&#39;:{},&#39;single&#39;:true,&#39;ttl&#39;:7200,&#39;expireTime&#39;:&#39;20120917021132&#39;}, self.className)},600);" class="wrc11" style="padding-right:16px;width:16px;height:16px"></span> will get you (or him) started.<br>


&gt; <br>&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>&gt; <br>&gt; &gt;&gt; There are many other caveats, but without requirements or use scenarios, I can&#39;t<br>&gt; <br>&gt; &gt;&gt; begin to make any suggestions.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>

&gt; <br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; If he wants low price over all else, there are cheap 1 or 2 disk options without<br>&gt; <br>&gt; &gt;&gt; any advanced capabilities. However, these have pretty poor performance, but that<br>&gt; <br>&gt; &gt;&gt; may not be an issue.<br>


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See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at<br>
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<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>SimonTek<br>912-398-6704<br><br>