Hmmmm.<br><br>Clients have ATI Video cards with 128 Meg and 500 meg Ram.<br>Sounds like border line huh?<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Boris Borisov <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bugyatl@gmail.com" target="_blank">bugyatl@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I think this is impressive and worth mentioning. Back in day on my<br>
LTSP setup I was running 486/32 MB RAM clients but with ATI RAGE video<br>
with accelerated 3D driver ( included in Xfree). So I was running<br>
BZflag OpenGL game on the server side and the game was displayed<br>
properly accelerated because of the driver on the thin client side<br>
with all the textures shadows and effects. For me this is true example<br>
of the networking nature of the Xfree/Xorg.<br>
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On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Boris Borisov <<a href="mailto:bugyatl@gmail.com">bugyatl@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
</div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">> In general local apps are running in clients memory using clients CPU<br>
> but are installed on server side. So no need for any sort of HDD. So<br>
> extra RAM for clients is nice. I would run as is been mentioned<br>
> previously browser and media player localapps and for example office<br>
> and whatever you choose not heavy on graphics on the server.<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Sergio Chaves <<a href="mailto:sergio.chaves@gmail.com">sergio.chaves@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> So, based on what you are saying, I should be better off putting an extra 02<br>
>> Gigs ram on the server (04 gigs total for 06 or 07 clients) than running<br>
>> Local Apps on the 486s, right?<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Jim Kinney <<a href="mailto:jim.kinney@gmail.com">jim.kinney@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Yes. Local apps use the hardware of the actual client. If the client<br>
>>> is setup to find and use local drive for cache, then that makes things<br>
>>> better than using server-side ram caching. Older LTSP used only<br>
>>> server-side. After LTSP5 client-side was an option. It had to be<br>
>>> turned on for each client I think. It's been a few years since I've<br>
>>> done a LTSP install so I'm rather rusty.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Local apps can require stronger hardware than all server-side only. An<br>
>>> i486 is pushing limits for local apps. Local apps are good for things<br>
>>> that are graphics intensive (flash, video like you-tube, some games -<br>
>>> tuxmath). The issue is that ALL of the libs needed to run the app must<br>
>>> ALSO be local so RAM becomes an issue for older systems as thin<br>
>>> clients.<br>
>>><br>
>>> On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Sergio Chaves <<a href="mailto:sergio.chaves@gmail.com">sergio.chaves@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>> wrote:<br>
>>> > I think I am confused but starting to see the light. Local apps run in<br>
>>> > the client's memory only? No hard drives needed?<br>
>>> > When people say they run local apps off the clients, they mean from<br>
>>> > memory and not hard drives?<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Sent from my iPhone<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > On Aug 8, 2012, at 10:46 AM, Boris Borisov <<a href="mailto:bugyatl@gmail.com">bugyatl@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> >> I never did setup on newer LTSP I stop at version 3.07 or similar I<br>
>>> >> can't recall now (back early 2000's). But back then the local<br>
>>> >> applications was terminology i believe for running for example Mozilla<br>
>>> >> on the diskless station CPU not on the server CPU. In that way you<br>
>>> >> avoid loads of pixels over the network. But application that are<br>
>>> >> executed in that fashion are installed in diskless directory tree so<br>
>>> >> they get loaded over NFS exports.<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> What are HD for?<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> Or maybe everything got changed with new LTSP versions.<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> Anyway I have 2-3 old HD. Marietta or Dallas. IF I do search over my<br>
>>> >> junk I would come up with more.<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 10:23 AM, Sergio Chaves<br>
>>> >> <<a href="mailto:sergio.chaves@gmail.com">sergio.chaves@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> >>> I got Edubuntu 12.04 up-and-running.<br>
>>> >>> Clients login fine.<br>
>>> >>> Problems are the usual ones - Firefox, Flash, etc.<br>
>>> >>> Using Local Apps to help.<br>
>>> >>> *My* problem is that all client PCs are diskless. Does anyone have 06<br>
>>> >>> old<br>
>>> >>> HDs (PCs are 486s); size does not matter in this case :-) - 20 Gig?<br>
>>> >>> Also, does anyone know if there are any changes for setting up Local<br>
>>> >>> Apps in<br>
>>> >>> 12.04 LTS?<br>
>>> >>> The most recent page I could find googling was this page -<br>
>>> >>> <a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTSPLocalAppSetup" target="_blank">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTSPLocalAppSetup</a><br>
>>> >>> Is it still valid?<br>
>>> >>><br>
>>> >>> BTW, I am in McDonough/Hampton area.<br>
>>> >>><br>
>>> >>> Thanks for any help on this. I must have everything ready by 09/02 and<br>
>>> >>> she,<br>
>>> >>> "the one that must be obeyed" is starting to comment on too much time<br>
>>> >>> in<br>
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