<html><head></head><body>The slowness was a surprise to me since ff has so much ram to play in. The whole app can exist in ram.<br>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">Erik Mathis <erik@mathists.com> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; word-wrap:break-word; font-family: sans-serif">You may want to run sar to gather system info.<br /><br />The slowness in running FF while your drive is thrashing like, is to<br />be expected. (especially a laptop hard drive) due to FF needed to do<br />things like load libraries, read/write cache, all those things require<br />disk access.<br /><br />-Erik-<br /><br />On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Ron Frazier (ALE)<br /><atllinuxenthinfo@techstarship.com> wrote:<br />> OK. 11.04 is exhibiting molasses behavior too. Maybe I'm abusing the<br />> computer too much, but I'm confused. If you guys can tell me what's<br />> happening, please let me know. Regardless of the cause, I like Gnome 2 and<br />> configurable panels the best, hence 11.04.<br />><br />> I'm trying to create a "clean" computer that border agents can inspect,<br />> should they choose, while I'm on the road. There will be nothing there to<br />> see but a plain vanilla install of Ubuntu.<br />><br />> Here's what I did. Install the OS and all patches, which is now 11.04.<br />><br />> Install the secure-delete program with synaptic. Use to fill up empty space<br />> and swap space to permanently delete deleted files.<br />><br />> Turn off swap: sudo swapoff -a<br />> Fill the swap space with zeros: sudo sswap -l -v /dev/sda5 (let this run)<br />> Start filling the normal drive with zeros: sudo sfill -l -v / (let this run)<br />><br />> These processes are incredibly slow, on the order of .5 MB / sec. So, I<br />> start creating junk files of my own to fill up the drive quicker.<br />><br />> dd if=/dev/zero of=./junk-16G bs=1G count=16<br />><br />> This last item will create a 16GB file at about 25 MB / sec in my case.<br />><br />> Note that, at this point, cpu utilization is UNDER 5 %. At the moment, there<br />> are still hundreds of GB of free HDD space.<br />><br />> While all this is going on, I start Firefox and try to do some browsing,<br />> like playing youtube, etc. Firefox is so incredibly slow as to be almost<br />> unusable. It may take 5-10 seconds just to paint the screen. At other times,<br />> it works more smoothly. I'm totally baffled as to the reason. Filling up the<br />> hard drive will take a long time, so I want to multitask with the PC in the<br />> mean time. I don't know what's up. The lack of a swap area shouldn't be a<br />> problem as I have 8 GB of RAM.<br />><br />> Also, when I use system monitor, and look at the file systems. It has a<br />> "free space" column and an "available space column". There are as much as<br />> about 15 GB of difference between them. Apparently, I can only fill up the<br />> available space with dd. But, sfill keeps going and fills up the free space,<br />> much slower. What does that mean.<br />><br />> Any help is always appreciated.<br />><br />> Sincerely,<br />><br />><br />> Ron<br />><br />><br />><br />> --<br />><br />> Sent from my Android Acer A500 tablet with bluetooth keyboard and K-9 Mail.<br />> Please excuse my potential brevity.<br />><br />> (To whom it may concern. My email address has changed. Replying to former<br />> messages prior to 03/31/12 with my personal address will go to the wrong<br />> address. Please send all personal correspondence to the new address.)<br />><br />> (PS - If you email me and don't get a quick response, you might want to<br />> call on the phone. I get about 300 emails per day from alternate energy<br />> mailing lists and such. I don't always see new email messages very quickly.)<br />><br />> Ron Frazier<br />> 770-205-9422 (O) Leave a message.<br />> linuxdude AT <a href="http://techstarship.com">techstarship.com</a><br />><br />><br />> Jim Kinney <jim.kinney@gmail.com> wrote:<br />>><br />>> Gee. Fedora uses Gnome3 and it does work (just tablet mentality).<br />>><br />>> On 07/15/2012 02:02 PM, mike@trausch.us wrote:<br />>><br />>> On 07/15/2012 01:59 PM, Ron Frazier (ALE) wrote:<br />>><br />>> However, I'm in a hurry to get this machine running. I deleted Ubuntu<br />>> 12.04 and went back to 11.04 with Gnome 2 that I know and (usually) love.<br />>><br />>> It only takes about 30 minutes after adding the PPA to get GNOME 3 on<br />>> there and reboot.<br />>><br />>> I am actually considering moving to Ubuntu on my desktop because the<br />>> Gentoo people aren't stabilizing GNOME 3 quickly enough (3.4 is out now,<br />>> damnit!) and there is little care in keeping the unstable GNOME 3 tree<br />>> updatable even if done daily.<br />>><br />>> --- Mike<br />>><br />>><br />>><br />>><hr /><br />>> Ale mailing list<br />>> Ale@ale.org<br />>> <a href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale">http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale</a><br />>> See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at<br />>> <a href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo">http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo</a><br />>><br />>><br />>><br />><br />><hr /><br />> Ale mailing list<br />> Ale@ale.org<br />> <a href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale">http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale</a><br />> See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at<br />> <a href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo">http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo</a><br />><br /><hr /><br />Ale mailing list<br />Ale@ale.org<br /><a href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale">http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale</a><br />See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at<br /><a href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo">http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo</a><br /></pre></blockquote></div></body></html>