<html><head></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Actually it is required to get your RHCE. Once upon a time upper level certs like RHCDS or RHCA would attach to your RHCE, now everything attaches to your RHCSA.</div><div><br></div><div>-Scott<br><br>On Jun 22, 2012, at 6:41 PM, Jim Kinney <<a href="mailto:jim.kinney@gmail.com">jim.kinney@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>It's newly renamed from the RHCT - the idea was a "technician" was too low of a field title for the skill set so they renamed to be "System Admin".<br><br>The RHCSA is a good first step towards RHCE. <br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 6:28 PM, John Anderson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:j@intte.com" target="_blank">j@intte.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Is the RHCSA worth anything? <br>
It appears to be the entry level Red hat cert. <br><div><div class="h5">
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On 06/22/2012 04:33 PM, Jim Kinney wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">I beg to differ!<br>
<br>
A cert in Microsoft means nothing other than (l)user passed a
test. They can do this without ever touching a computer.<br>
<br>
The RHCE means that engineer has passed a rigorous field test of
both theoretical as well as practical, hands-on troubleshooting.<br>
<br>
It is not possible to pass the RHCE exam without several years of
experience. While general Linux skilz would be useful, the exam is
very geared toward a professional engineer working in a high-count
RHEL environment. A solid understanding of how to setup and
configure a RHEL server for a variety of common needs each with a
bit of a twist is a requirement to survive the test. The test has
a 50% first pass rate. Only the CNA test is viewed higher by those
signing paychecks. There are additional, higher-order RHEL tests,
RHCA - RedHat Certified Architect , that requires a RHCE to start
plus 5 of 7 additional specialty certifications.<br>
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But, yes, RHCE == $$$. Both to take and to make.<br>
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I have yet to see an ad for a RHCA. I would require a total
boatload of cash to even give a CFO the time of day if I went that
route.<br>
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On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Jeff Hubbs <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jhubbslist@att.net" target="_blank">jhubbslist@att.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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I guess by this point it's not much different from getting a
job doing<br>
Microsoft: 1) Get Red Hat certificate 2) Apply. Seems there's
little<br>
market outside of the RH vertical.<br>
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On 6/22/12 1:13 PM, leam hall wrote:<br>
> Many moons ago I picked up a domain name with the idea
of building a<br>
> site to help people move into professional linux. It is
my nature to<br>
> help people grow. Unfortunately I've not done much with
it. Trying ot<br>
> decide if there's a niche to fill and if so what should
go there.<br>
><br>
> My real goal is not to duplicate efforts but to collate
information,<br>
> provide insight to industry trends, and help answer the
"how do I get<br>
> a job doing Linux" question that keeps coming up now
and again.<br>
><br>
> Thoughts?<br>
><br>
> Leam<br>
><br>
><br>
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