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    Lately what seems to work well for me is dark slacks with a
    sculptured "dress" T under a sportcoat - which I leave on.&nbsp; With my
    Jimmy-Page-like hair, I seem to come off more appropriately
    "professorial" looking and more "me" than I'd look in a suit.<br>
    <br>
    On 6/20/12 9:54 AM, Robert L. Harris wrote:
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      When I just interviewed with the Suit, the VP I interviewed with
      mentioned I looked good in it as he (and everyone else) was
      wearing Jeans and a Polo. I commented I'm glad as I rarely wear
      one since my company does not require such. He laughed and
      accepted that. Was the suit overkill? Yes. Did I show I was
      willing to go above and beyond? Yes. And 3 days later they asked
      for References. It was worth the short amount of discomfort to get
      on the short-list.<br>
      <br>
      Robert<br>
      --<br>
      :wq!<br>
---------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
      Robert L. Harris<br>
      <br>
      DISCLAIMER: <br>
      These are MY OPINIONS With Dreams To Be A King,<br>
      ALONE. I speak for First One Should Be A Man<br>
      no-one else. - Manowar<br>
      <br>
      <div class="gmail_quote">"Lightner, Jeff"
        <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:JLightner@water.com">&lt;JLightner@water.com&gt;</a> wrote:
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">I&#8217;ve
                never been turned away for wearing a suit and tie.&nbsp;&nbsp;
                Interviewers have mentioned it wasn&#8217;t necessary but
                never sent me away for not fitting their culture.&nbsp;&nbsp; The
                only time I&nbsp; ever had an issue with appearance was when
                I was being presented for a job at a law firm that
                didn&#8217;t like beards.&nbsp;&nbsp; The headhunter was ready to send
                me on to the client but then realized I had the beard.&nbsp;
                I told her I&#8217;d be willing to shave if I got the job but
                not just in hopes of getting it.&nbsp;&nbsp; They chose not to
                send me to the client.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">The
                old saying is:&nbsp; You never get a second chance to make a
                first impression.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">If
                someone would somehow judge that you are too stuffy
                because you wore a suit to the interview then they don&#8217;t
                really understand the dynamic of the situation and would
                likely not be pleasant to work for in any event.&nbsp;&nbsp; The
                idea of researching the company to find out their dress
                code sounds fine on the surface but I disagree with it.&nbsp;
                Just because the CEO or other key employees wear jeans
                doesn&#8217;t mean that they want YOU to wear jeans to the
                interview.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
                <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org">ale-bounces@ale.org</a> [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org">mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org</a>]
                <b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert L. Harris<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 20, 2012 8:39 AM<br>
                <b>To:</b> Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts<br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [ale] OT: interview. Tie? Jacket?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal">Wear the suit, leave the Jacket off
              until you get out of the Car to go in the building, &nbsp;Once
              you get in the interview ask "Do you mind if I remove the
              Jacket, it is a bit warm". &nbsp;You want to show them you are
              willing to go the extra step beyond just your technical
              skill set. &nbsp;When you get up to leave, put the Jack on and
              straighten it. When you get back to the car, throw it in
              the back seat.<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 6:26 AM,
                  Richard Bronosky &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:richardbronosky@gmail.com"
                    target="_blank">richardbronosky@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                  wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
                <p>I concur. For UPS I'd wear slacks and a tie.<o:p></o:p></p>
                <p>Regarding jeans for an interview: Only wear jeans if
                  you have dark jeans with a modern finish. These pale
                  stone/acid washed things that gray beards trends to
                  wear don't cut it for an interview. A nice pair of
                  jeans can cost significantly more than a pair of
                  khakis and for that reason you can be considered well
                  dressed in jeans.<o:p></o:p></p>
                <p>I've never worn jeans to an interview but I have
                  hired people who did.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">On Jun 20, 2012 8:14 AM, &lt;<a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:simontek@gmail.com"
                          target="_blank">simontek@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                        wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">Wear shirt and tie, no
                        jacket. Jacket in this heat would make you
                        sweat, a lot.<br>
                        Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile<br>
                        <br>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">-----Original Message-----<br>
                        From: Geoffrey Myers &lt;<a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:lists@serioustechnology.com"
                          target="_blank">lists@serioustechnology.com</a>&gt;<br>
                        Sender: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org"
                          target="_blank">ale-bounces@ale.org</a><br>
                        Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 08:12:07<br>
                        To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts&lt;<a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:ale@ale.org" target="_blank">ale@ale.org</a>&gt;<br>
                        Reply-To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts &lt;<a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:ale@ale.org" target="_blank">ale@ale.org</a>&gt;<br>
                        Subject: Re: [ale] OT: interview. Tie? Jacket?<br>
                        <br>
                        On 06/19/2012 07:32 PM, <a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:simontek@gmail.com"
                          target="_blank">simontek@gmail.com</a> wrote:<br>
                        &gt; Well, what's the job at UPS?<br>
                        <br>
                        Sys admin.<br>
                        <br>
                        &gt; Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile<br>
                        &gt;<br>
                        &gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
                        &gt; From: "Ron Frazier (ALE)"&lt;<a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:atllinuxenthinfo@techstarship.com"
                          target="_blank">atllinuxenthinfo@techstarship.com</a>&gt;<br>
                        &gt; Sender: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org"
                          target="_blank">ale-bounces@ale.org</a><br>
                        &gt; Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 19:29:09<br>
                        &gt; To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts&lt;<a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:ale@ale.org" target="_blank">ale@ale.org</a>&gt;<br>
                        &gt; Reply-To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts&lt;<a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:ale@ale.org" target="_blank">ale@ale.org</a>&gt;<br>
                        &gt; Subject: Re: [ale] OT: interview. Tie?
                        Jacket?<br>
                        &gt;<br>
                        &gt;
                        _______________________________________________<br>
                        &gt; Ale mailing list<br>
                        &gt; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:Ale@ale.org" target="_blank">Ale@ale.org</a><br>
                        &gt; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale"
                          target="_blank">http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale</a><br>
                        &gt; See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at<br>
                        &gt; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo"
                          target="_blank">http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo</a><br>
                        &gt;<br>
                        &gt;<br>
                        &gt;<br>
                        &gt;
                        _______________________________________________<br>
                        &gt; Ale mailing list<br>
                        &gt; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:Ale@ale.org" target="_blank">Ale@ale.org</a><br>
                        &gt; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale"
                          target="_blank">http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale</a><br>
                        &gt; See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at<br>
                        &gt; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo"
                          target="_blank">http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo</a><br>
                        <br>
                        <br>
                        --<br>
                        Until later, Geoffrey<br>
                        <br>
                        "I predict future happiness for America if they
                        can prevent<br>
                        the government from wasting the labors of the
                        people under<br>
                        the pretense of taking care of them."<br>
                        - Thomas Jefferson<br>
                        _______________________________________________<br>
                        Ale mailing list<br>
                        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:Ale@ale.org" target="_blank">Ale@ale.org</a><br>
                        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale"
                          target="_blank">http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale</a><br>
                        See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at<br>
                        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo"
                          target="_blank">http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo</a><br>
                        <br>
                        _______________________________________________<br>
                        Ale mailing list<br>
                        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:Ale@ale.org" target="_blank">Ale@ale.org</a><br>
                        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale"
                          target="_blank">http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale</a><br>
                        See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at<br>
                        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo"
                          target="_blank">http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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                  _______________________________________________<br>
                  Ale mailing list<br>
                  <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Ale@ale.org">Ale@ale.org</a><br>
                  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale"
                    target="_blank">http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale</a><br>
                  See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at<br>
                  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo"
                    target="_blank">http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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                <o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">-- <br>
                :wq!<br>
---------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
                Robert L. Harris<br>
                <br>
                DISCLAIMER:<br>
                &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; These are MY OPINIONS&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; With Dreams To
                Be A King,<br>
                &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; ALONE.&nbsp; I speak for&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; First
                One Should Be A Man<br>
                &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; no-one else.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;
                - Manowar<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="e033d674-3a3b-4ac4-8167-2659823254ee">&nbsp;</p>
          <p class="e033d674-3a3b-4ac4-8167-2659823254ee">&nbsp;</p>
          <p class="e033d674-3a3b-4ac4-8167-2659823254ee"><font
              face="Arial"><font color="fuchsia"><font
                  style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" size="2">Athena<font
                    size="1">&reg;</font>, Created for the Cause</font><font
                  size="1">&#8482;
                </font></font></font></p>
          <p class="e033d674-3a3b-4ac4-8167-2659823254ee"><font size="2"
              face="Arial">Making a Difference in the Fight Against
              Breast Cancer</font></p>
          <p class="e033d674-3a3b-4ac4-8167-2659823254ee">&nbsp;</p>
          <p class="e033d674-3a3b-4ac4-8167-2659823254ee">&nbsp;</p>
          <p class="e033d674-3a3b-4ac4-8167-2659823254ee"><font
              face="Arial"><font size="2"><strong>How and Why I Should
                  Support Bottled Water!<br>
                </strong>Do not relinquish your right to choose bottled
                water as a healthy alternative to beverages that contain
                sugar, calories, etc. Your support of bottled water will
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