SWEET!!!!!<br><br>Excellent link for non-microsoft infected laptops. System76 is a bit thin on options and this store looks very promising.<br><br>I LOVE my Lenovo Thinkpad W520 that is own by my employer. Totally spoiled rotten on 4 cores and 16GB RAM in a laptop. As I usually have 20-50 tabs open in firefox plus 4-10 gnome-terminals each with 2-10 tabs open and multiple ssh tunnels and (gag spit choke) Lotus Notes eating up my system, and I STILL have horsepower to launch a vm running win7 so I can download the latest virus, er, I mean "update".<br>
<br>Avadirect looks like they have some equivalent laptops. And they build some total monsters! One laptop has an option for a dual NVIDIA graphics card that requires/includes a second power brick!!!<br><br>OMFG!!!! It's a LAPTOP!<br>
<br>can you tell I'm jazzed :-) <br><br>plus up to 32GB RAM and x3 SATA drives I can easily price this well into the total fantasy land of laptops.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 1:04 AM, Pablo Ordonez <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pablo.f.ordonez@gmail.com" target="_blank">pablo.f.ordonez@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I use Ubuntu as my main work tool. I try to make my life as simple as I can, so 99% of my work time is shared among emacs, a terminal, and a browser(chromium). I do not use Unity that much; however, I find HUD very clever and useful to find shortcuts in the different modes in emacs. I know that my work can be done by any distribution, so why I use Ubuntu?<div>
<br></div><div>Because they are very clear about what they want. They are trying to reach the desktop, laptop market, and they NAME PUBLICLY who are the Monopolistic contenders. </div><div><br></div><div>Today I bought a decent laptop at <a href="http://www.avadirect.com/" target="_blank">http://www.avadirect.com</a><span><font color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"> without paying Microsoft tax. That happened no because of slack, mint, fedora etc.. ( although they can install those distributions).</font></span></div>
<div><span><font color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></span></div><div><span><font color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif">I do not (super_hyper_ultra)-hate Red Hat, Fedora, Slack. I guess, they are wonderful distributions and I'm glad some people enjoy them. I think this kind of threads does not help to Linux or Linux community. Pls code more and talk less to improve your favorite distribution.</font></span></div>
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<div><span><font color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></span></div><div><span><font color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif">Pablo :)</font></span></div></font></span><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div>
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On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 11:46 PM, Jay Lozier <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jslozier@gmail.com" target="_blank">jslozier@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div>On 05/15/2012 11:10 PM, rhia wrote:<br>
> I like top post Tuesday as well.<br>
> And I really like Enlightenment as well, too.<br>
> Ron, I feel your pain, which is why Ubuntu et al annoy me almost, but<br>
> not quite, as much as the abomination from Redmond.<br>
> I ran Slackware with a hybridized bastardized gnome/KDE/Enlightenment<br>
> desktop setup for years and then switched over to Gentoo with a<br>
> hybridized bastardized gnome/KDE/Enlightenment desktop setup.<br>
> Yes, it took a while to work the bugs out.<br>
> No, it's not something I would install on my parents' systems.<br>
> However; once tweaked, and fiddled with, and tweaked some more, I have a<br>
> system (and backup configs) that suits me and I can transport to new<br>
> hardware or reinstall whenever needed. To me, that ability (to<br>
> customize, tweak, fiddle with, etc) is why I prefer running the much<br>
> more finicky? persnickety? Gentoo on my own systems. (Sadly, it's also<br>
> why I dislike the Windows/Apple wannabes, but that might well start a<br>
> distro war I'm not wanting to battle here and now.)<br>
><br>
> ----<br>
> rhia<br>
</div>IMHO, the advantage of Linux is one word: choice. If you do not like the<br>
default you can install and tweak so that you have a system that suits<br>
your needs. You can hate a DE but you can change it, often fairly<br>
easily. Try this with M$ or Apple, you can only do the tweaks they allow.<br>
<div><div>><br>
><br>
> On Tue, 2012-05-15 at 16:00 -0400, Geoffrey Myers wrote:<br>
>> It's top post Tuesday....<br>
>><br>
>> Enlightenment. Build it from source.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On 05/15/2012 01:34 PM, Sparr wrote:<br>
>>> The exceptionally premature adoption of kde 4.1 by most distros is what<br>
>>> drove me to convert from kde to gnome a few years ago. Unity has driven<br>
>>> me back to kde and I'm almost as happy with the latest kde as I was<br>
>>> prior to 4.0<br>
>>><br>
>>> On May 15, 2012 1:16 PM, "William Bagwell"<<a href="mailto:rb211@tds.net" target="_blank">rb211@tds.net</a><br>
>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rb211@tds.net" target="_blank">rb211@tds.net</a>>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> On Tuesday 15 May 2012, Ron Frazier (ALE) wrote:<br>
>>> >snip (21 point rant)<br>
>>> > Any help and advice is appreciated.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Can offer nothing more than condolances. What you so eloquently describe<br>
>>> mirrors my brief experience with KDE 4.X and explains why I am still<br>
>>> using a *four year old* distro as my daily desktop.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Waiting for some kind soul to port Trinity to Mandriva so I can<br>
>>> upgrade...<br>
>>> --<br>
>>> William<br>
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consumerism or hatred of the vulnerable, then the powerful can do as
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