<html>
<head>
<meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
http-equiv="Content-Type">
</head>
<body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
On 05/15/2012 12:46 PM, Ron Frazier (ALE) wrote:
<blockquote
cite="mid:355dc683-79e7-48a9-9dca-532a0e435188@email.android.com"
type="cite">Hi all,<br>
<br>
Warning - ranting follows. Apologies in advance to anyone who
likes Ubuntu Unity. I've been using a Ubuntu 11.10 live cd to do
some disk maintenance. I have to vent, here, or I'm going to have
to break some fragile objects in the house. By the way, I know
I've said some of this before. After all the careful consideration
and observation and pondering I can stand, I have concluded that:<br>
<br>
<RANT ON><br>
<br>
I hate unity.<br>
No, I HATE unity.<br>
No, I REALLY hate unity.<br>
No, I really INCREDIBLY hate unity.<br>
No, I really incredibly EXPONENTIALLY hate unity.<br>
<br>
For my purposes and style of computer use and preferences, it is
probably the worst UI I've ever seen in my life. Here are just a
few of the reasons I hate it.<br>
<br>
01) They combine a menu button bar with a taskbar. If I want to
start something, I want a menu. If I want to know what's running
and switch to it, I need a taskbar. I don't need some mongrel
hybrid of the two.<br>
02) There is no obvious way to change any button bar settings.<br>
03) There are no text names for the apps on the button bar, unless
you hover your mouse on them. (Couldn't do that if it was a
tablet.)<br>
04) Apps are much harder to find and browse through. I'm aware of
the search function. Windows has it too. I don't like it, and
rarely use it.<br>
05) The menu for the WINDOW I'm in is sitting in the bar at the
top of the SCREEN.<br>
06) If I have multiple windows open, there is no easy way to tell
which menu I'm reading.<br>
07) The window menu HIDES as soon as you roll your mouse away. The
very first or second thing I do when I install an OS, even
Windows, is disable every stinking function that auto hides
things.<br>
08) The scroll control is normally invisible.<br>
09) The scroll control moves around and is never in the same
place, like the old arrows at the top and bottom of a scrollbar.
So, every time I want to scroll, I have to go looking for the
current location of the control.<br>
10) The scroll control hides itself, EVEN IF YOUR MOUSE IS ON IT.
So, say you're reading a long document. You want to read some,
click the scroll down arrow, read some more, click again, etc. YOU
CANNOT DO THIS WITHOUT MOVING YOUR MOUSE OFF THE SCROLL CONTROL
AND BACK ON TO MAKE IT REAPPEAR. Just writing this virtually has
steam coming out of my ears.<br>
11) If I want to see all my apps or find an app that I don't know
the name of, I have to click the menu button, then more apps, then
see 87 more results. For all that pain, I get this giant list of
icons that are not categorized at all, all occupying lots of
screen real estate, AND AS FAR AS I CAN TELL, THERE IS NO
ACCESSIBLE SCROLL CONTROL. I can only scroll with the thumbwheel
or the edge of the touchpad. A heirarchical text based menu is TEN
THOUSAND times better. An OPTION to display icons might be handy,
ON OCCASION.<br>
12) The running things on the combined menu bar and taskbar are
not grouped together. So, if I've selected several things from the
button bar to run, and I want to know what's running, I have to
scroll up and down the bar and look for the stupid little carret
indicators.<br>
13) There is apparently no way to move the button bar or resize
it.<br>
14) There is no obvious way to change any settings for the button
bar.<br>
15) The buttons on the button bar are too large, and it takes up
too much vertical space for the number of apps it displays.<br>
16) While I do normally keep my taksbar vertical, most people are
used to horizontal bars, and may actually like them that way, but
this gives you no choice, apparently.<br>
17) The close, minimize, maximize buttons are on the wrong side of
the window.<br>
18) Most of the appearance and font options I'm used to seem to be
gone, or exceptionally well hidden.<br>
19) The button bar "squishes" when there are too many icons, until
you roll over it (which you couldn't do on a tablet by the way),
then it unsquishes, generally hiding the icons at the bottom.<br>
20) There are no "panels" apparently, that I can position around
the screen and put little objects on like the CPU usage indicator,
etc.<br>
21) This is a TABLET interface and I'm using it on a LAPTOP OR
DESKTOP. Those interfaces and environments should NEVER be mixed,
in my opinion.<br>
<br>
</RANT OFF><br>
<br>
Pant, Pant. OK, breathe, count to 10, think about a peaceful
scene.<br>
<br>
Well, amazingly, that's all I could think of after testing the
product for a full 30 minutes. Perhaps I WON'T continue later.<br>
<br>
Suffice it to say, that if I have to run THIS, then I won't be
running Linux. I've heard bad things about Window 8 too, but
haven't investigated it. Now, I know you are going to tell me that
there are alternatives. So, hypothetically speaking, if I were to
upgrade from Ubuntu 11.04 to Ubuntu 12.04, can I still run GNOME 2
on it? If not, what would be the closest thing to that user
experience that I'm used to and THAT I LIKE?<br>
<br>
Thanks in advance. Any help and advice is appreciated.<br>
</blockquote>
Cinnamon from Linux Mint should work. Cinnamon is Gnome 3 that acts
more like Gnome 2<br>
Cinnamon install via PPA (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://askubuntu.com/questions/94201/how-do-i-install-the-cinnamon-desktop">http://askubuntu.com/questions/94201/how-do-i-install-the-cinnamon-desktop</a>)<br>
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gwendal-lebihan-dev/cinnamon-stable<br>
sudo apt-get update<br>
sudo apt-get install cinnamon<br>
<br>
KDE and Gnome 3 should work and both are available via Synaptic in
12.04 repository. <br>
<br>
Installing Mate apparently updates to Mint. Mate is a fork of Gnome
2 included in Mint.<br>
<br>
Unless you need "vanilla" Ubuntu; Mint should be releasing a new
version sometime in June. Mint normally releases a new version about
1 month after the Ubuntu release.<br>
<blockquote
cite="mid:355dc683-79e7-48a9-9dca-532a0e435188@email.android.com"
type="cite">
<br>
Sincerely,<br>
<br>
Ron<br>
<br>
<br>
--<br>
<br>
Sent from my Android Acer A500 tablet with bluetooth keyboard and
K-9 Mail.<br>
Please excuse my potential brevity.<br>
<br>
(To whom it may concern. My email address has changed. Replying to
former<br>
messages prior to 03/31/12 with my personal address will go to the
wrong<br>
address. Please send all personal correspondence to the new
address.)<br>
<br>
(PS - If you email me and don't get a quick response, you might
want to<br>
call on the phone. I get about 300 emails per day from alternate
energy<br>
mailing lists and such. I don't always see new email messages very
quickly.)<br>
<br>
Ron Frazier<br>
770-205-9422 (O) Leave a message.<br>
linuxdude AT <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://techstarship.com">techstarship.com</a><br>
<br>
<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
<br>
<pre wrap="">_______________________________________________
Ale mailing list
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Ale@ale.org">Ale@ale.org</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale">http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale</a>
See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo">http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo</a>
</pre>
</blockquote>
<br>
<br>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">--
Jay Lozier
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jslozier@gmail.com">jslozier@gmail.com</a></pre>
</body>
</html>