<p>So a broader question is for what types of tasks is a general purpose pc more energy efficient for than other means of achieving the desired end goal?<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Apr 21, 2012 7:46 PM, "Jeff Hubbs" <<a href="mailto:jhubbslist@att.net">jhubbslist@att.net</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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It amounts to very little over the useful life of the instance - and
even less compared to the amount of energy it took to build and ship
the computer.<br>
<br>
On 4/21/12 7:01 PM, Jim Kinney wrote:
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<p>Ah, gentoo. I'm waiting for the analysis looking at power
consumed for compiling everything vs power saved from having a
highly optomised system. How much time must elapse between
updates to get a power or time performance payoff.<br>
Not ragging on Jeff (or gentoo for that matter). I've just been
doing a fai amount of power analysis lately and that struck me
as an interesting question.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Apr 21, 2012 4:44 PM, "Jeff Hubbs"
<<a href="mailto:jhubbslist@att.net" target="_blank">jhubbslist@att.net</a>>
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The similar package manager ("Portage") in Gentoo Linux has
definitely<br>
been one of its big draws for over a decade.<br>
<br>
On 4/21/12 2:31 PM, arxaaron wrote:<br>
> The current issue of Linux Format featured Sabayon in
their<br>
> Distrowatch segment. was very complimentary of<br>
> Sabayon. They liked that it come up in XFCE but<br>
> also supported Cinnamon (the customized Gnome 3<br>
> from the Mint distro) and Razor QT as optional<br>
> packages.<br>
><br>
> They are a plus on the "Ports" package manager as well.<br>
><br>
><br>
> peace<br>
> aaron<br>
><br>
> On 2012/04/21, at 10:22 , Damon L. Chesser wrote:<br>
><br>
>> On Fri, 2012-04-20 at 13:25 -0400, Scott Denlinger
wrote:<br>
>>> I agree with you about Debian, but do you have a
particular NEED to<br>
>>> run Sid on<br>
>>> your desktop? Surely you know that's Debian's
unstable version? Why<br>
>>> not try<br>
>>> testing? I'm running that, and it effectively is
as reliable as the<br>
>>> "stable"<br>
>>> distribution, and gets you more up to date
software than the stable<br>
>>> distribution.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Scott Denlinger<br>
>> Scott,<br>
>><br>
>> Yes, I do know that. I run Sid because that is what
the Ubers do. At<br>
>> least that is what I thought in 2000. Sure it
breaks, but it also<br>
>> gets<br>
>> fixed quicker then testing. Nobody cares if testing
breaks ;)<br>
>><br>
>> My interest in Sabayon is this: The Ports package
system rocks, and<br>
>> it<br>
>> rocks, and it also rocks. Though, it IS nice, if you
go to<br>
>> Sourceforge<br>
>> and find a cool project, they almost always have two
packages,<br>
>> source gz<br>
>> and .deb.<br>
>><br>
>> I do not want Ubuntu. I hate Unity. While it
(Ubuntu) works (mostly)<br>
>> you are out of luck if something you want does not
work because the<br>
>> project decided to take an unsupported tweak or
non-upstream adopted<br>
>> "fix". No such issue with Debian. And if you run
Sid, you are always<br>
>> head of Ubuntu.<br>
>><br>
>> I guess after 12 years, you can just get that itch
where you forget<br>
>> about the one who brought you to the dance.<br>
>><br>
>> Perhaps Linux users are not meant to be single distro
users. I mean<br>
>> it<br>
>> might not even be natural?<br>
>><br>
>> I considered FreeBSD, but I think they suck as a
desktop (because of<br>
>> the<br>
>> lack of current drivers for desktop things).
OpenSolaris, Ilumos and<br>
>> family look real, real interesting, but I think not
as a desktop,<br>
>> but as<br>
>> a testbed (can anybody say ZFS, that is where all
that development is<br>
>> happing at, and it is NOT being put back into
solaris, as well as some<br>
>> really cool cloud things in a few opensolaris
distros)<br>
>><br>
>> Anyway, just a few things I have been pondering.<br>
>><br>
>>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 08:50:08AM -0400,
Chesser.Damon wrote:<br>
>>>> Running Debian Sid for a desktop. Getting
tired (after 10+ years)<br>
>>>> of<br>
>>>> small breakages rotating through my desktop.
Been thinking about<br>
>>>> Sabayon. Not trying to start a religious war
here (we all know<br>
>>>> Debian<br>
>>>> is the one true Linux way), but does anybody
have experience with<br>
>>>> this<br>
>>>> distro?<br>
>>> _______________________________________________<br>
>> --<br>
>> Damon<br>
>> <a href="mailto:damon@damtek.com" target="_blank">damon@damtek.com</a><br>
>><br>
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