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color:#1F497D'>Well, and let’s be clear here, if you are using VOIP you ARE
being monitored. Or at least you could be. Just like your emails can be read
by every switch it passes through. If you don’t use encryption (ignoring
conspiracies) your transmission can be intercepted and re-assembled and the
voice packets can be plainly heard. Just the nature of VOIP and SIP.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> ale-bounces@ale.org
[mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lightner, Jeff<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 20, 2012 9:23 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ale] Cable modem recommendation<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>If you think ALL your calls aren’t subject to being monitored
you’re living in a dream world. It used to disgust me when I worked
for a cell phone company how often I saw government regulations that
essentially required back doors into all innovations made. Don’t
forget that W and his Republican cronies began illegally getting data from all
the major phone companies in the name of counter-terrorism for ALL calls in
America not just those from “suspected terrorists” and the Democrats who did
much hand-wringing about how evil this practice was actually legalized it
retro-actively after they took congress back.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> ale-bounces@ale.org
[mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael Campbell<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 20, 2012 8:18 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ale] Cable modem recommendation</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Ron Frazier (ALE) <<a
href="mailto:atllinuxenthinfo@techstarship.com">atllinuxenthinfo@techstarship.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On 4/19/2012 8:17 AM, Michael Campbell wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
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A colleague of mine uses Ooma and raves about it. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I use Skype dial-out (I can dial regular #'s with it), and
it works well enough for me. I'm on business in Belgium right now, and I
use it to call my home phone in Atlanta on the anemic hotel wifi, and it works
very well with voice. It also works moderately well with video on a
Skype-Skype call to home also.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I don't have a Jihad against Microsoft, so I'll continue to
use Skype until a better valued option comes up, or it starts to suck. So
far neither have happened.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I haven't tried Google Voice from my computer to regular #
yet, but I might try that in the next couple days.<o:p></o:p></p>
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Hi Michael and all,<br>
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I use both Microsoft and Linux products routinely, and don't have an axe to
grind for or against either. However, I thought I'd mention this
regarding Skype. Microsoft filed for a patent back in 2009 and it was
recently published regarding allowing the covert "wiretapping" (my
words) of VOIP calls. Now that they've bought Skype, I think you have to
assume that your Skype call could be monitored and recorded. Now, it's
supposed to be only legally authorized wiretapping, and I understand that law
enforcement sometimes has a need for that. However, it used to be only
the highly regulated telco that had access to wiretap your calls. Now,
it's a less regulated (I would say) mega corporation that's routing the call,
and one that's not intrinsically in the phone business. I think that, if
I needed VOIP for anything remotely sensitive, and if I had an alternative that
I could encrypt, I'd avoid using Skype. I don't know precisely what that
alternative is though. Just my 2 cents.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Security concerns noted and appreciated. While I
understand where you're coming from, (and each user is different), I don't use
Skype for sensitive comms. Mainly business stuff between colleagues (and
Skype is the standard where I work, so I more or less have to use it for that),
and talks to my family about dull family stuff when I'm away from the house.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Given that Skype's data goes through a (large?) number of
different routers, networks, and such before and after it hits Skype's/MS'
servers, worrying about MS specifically recording my calls is actually the
least of any worries I'd have (if I had any to begin with).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>In short, I'm less concerned about THAT attack vector on my
calling since I believe there are so many other easier ones*. And the NSA
has all my data already.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>* One that does give me slight pause is now MS owns the
proprietary protocol specs for Skype. If I understand correctly, one of
Skype's security features was that it has not yet been reverse engineered very
well (or at all?). Perhaps that's wrong; I haven't really kept up with
the progress along those lines.<o:p></o:p></p>
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