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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">If you think ALL your calls aren’t subject to being monitored you’re living in a dream world. It used to disgust me when I worked for
a cell phone company how often I saw government regulations that essentially required back doors into all innovations made. Don’t forget that W and his Republican cronies began illegally getting data from all the major phone companies in the name of counter-terrorism
for ALL calls in America not just those from “suspected terrorists” and the Democrats who did much hand-wringing about how evil this practice was actually legalized it retro-actively after they took congress back.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma"> ale-bounces@ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org]
<b><span style="font-weight:
bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Michael Campbell<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Friday, April 20, 2012 8:18 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [ale] Cable modem recommendation</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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12.0pt">On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Ron Frazier (ALE) <<a href="mailto:atllinuxenthinfo@techstarship.com">atllinuxenthinfo@techstarship.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt">On 4/19/2012 8:17 AM, Michael Campbell wrote:
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A colleague of mine uses Ooma and raves about it. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt">I use Skype dial-out (I can dial regular #'s with it), and it works well enough for me. I'm on business in
<st1:country-region w:st="on">Belgium</st1:country-region> right now, and I use it to call my home phone in
<st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Atlanta</st1:place></st1:City> on the anemic hotel wifi, and it works very well with voice. It also works moderately well with video on a Skype-Skype call to home also.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt">I don't have a Jihad against Microsoft, so I'll continue to use Skype until a better valued option comes up, or it starts to suck. So far neither have happened.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt">I haven't tried Google Voice from my computer to regular # yet, but I might try that in the next couple days.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Hi Michael and all,<br>
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I use both Microsoft and Linux products routinely, and don't have an axe to grind for or against either. However, I thought I'd mention this regarding Skype. Microsoft filed for a patent back in 2009 and it was recently published regarding allowing the covert
"wiretapping" (my words) of VOIP calls. Now that they've bought Skype, I think you have to assume that your Skype call could be monitored and recorded. Now, it's supposed to be only legally authorized wiretapping, and I understand that law enforcement sometimes
has a need for that. However, it used to be only the highly regulated telco that had access to wiretap your calls. Now, it's a less regulated (I would say) mega corporation that's routing the call, and one that's not intrinsically in the phone business.
I think that, if I needed VOIP for anything remotely sensitive, and if I had an alternative that I could encrypt, I'd avoid using Skype. I don't know precisely what that alternative is though. Just my 2 cents.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt">Security concerns noted and appreciated. While I understand where you're coming from, (and each user is different), I don't use Skype for sensitive comms. Mainly
business stuff between colleagues (and Skype is the standard where I work, so I more or less have to use it for that), and talks to my family about dull family stuff when I'm away from the house.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt">Given that Skype's data goes through a (large?) number of different routers, networks, and such before and after it hits Skype's/MS' servers, worrying about MS specifically
recording my calls is actually the least of any worries I'd have (if I had any to begin with).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt">In short, I'm less concerned about THAT attack vector on my calling since I believe there are so many other easier ones*. And the NSA has all my data already.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt">* One that does give me slight pause is now MS owns the proprietary protocol specs for Skype. If I understand correctly, one of Skype's security features was that it
has not yet been reverse engineered very well (or at all?). Perhaps that's wrong; I haven't really kept up with the progress along those lines.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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