cool! Off-lease is NOT refurbished. so it may be a vary new system that was just barely used before the company went under or never reissued it (hot spare on a shelf for (l)user).<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Neal Rhodes <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:neal@mnopltd.com">neal@mnopltd.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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I should be more accurate. TigerDirect represented the machine as an "off-lease". They did not explicitly say refurbished. <br>
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The other surprise is that it looked to me like it came with HP packaging. Most of their off-leases are in generic packaging. <br><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
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On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 07:44 -0400, Jim Kinney wrote:<br>
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the data _can_ be altered but likely only by the drive maker.<br>
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Most likely the refurb group put in a new drive.<br>
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Drive makers do refurb drives by replacing the board. That will reset the SMART data.<br>
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On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 10:40 PM, Neal Rhodes <<a href="mailto:neal@mnopltd.com" target="_blank">neal@mnopltd.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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I got a supposedly refurbished HP desktop from Tiger Direct.<br>
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Various flavors of SMARTD utilities on Windows and Centos reported very low hours on the drive, like in the range of 5 hours. <br>
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Does this mean that the refurb operation put in a new disk drive, or is there a way of re-initializing the SMARTD data? <br>
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(or, do the drive manufacturers refurb their own drives and send out used drives with zero hours on them? )<br>
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