<p>I am squatting on 7+TB of data, but I would say buying drives atm is going to be hit or miss, think the plant that makes the spindle motors is not full of water any more, but everything I have read says ~q3 of this year things will start getting back to normal.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Mar 2, 2012 2:29 PM, "Cornelis van Dijk" <<a href="mailto:cor.angela0@gmail.com">cor.angela0@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
In defense of Seagate,<br>
<br>
Maybe Seagate is going easy on quality control nowadays, but I have a<br>
bunch of ancient 9GB<br>
Seagates, that are all running fine (after spinup!). They are big like<br>
shoeboxes, but indestructible. I also have several Seagates in the<br>
range of 100 to 300 GB that have been running for years. I would not<br>
know what to do with a TB drive, even my 500 GB FreeAgent is only 20%<br>
full.<br>
<br>
<br>
On 3/2/12, gcs8 <<a href="mailto:gcsviii@gmail.com">gcsviii@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Every seagate or maxtor drive I have owned has failed on me, the maxtors<br>
> where never hard fails. I do shy away from the 1.5tb drives from all the<br>
> problems they had in there early days. I had 2 of the 1.5tb seagates for my<br>
> drobo before the 2tb drives where out, they both died on me and I moved to<br>
> wd greens for it and never had a problem. The 40tb san in my house uses the<br>
> samsung spinpoint drives, I don't trust them as far as I can through them<br>
> but they are setup to take some hits.<br>
> On Mar 2, 2012 11:52 AM, "Geoffrey Myers" <<a href="mailto:lists@serioustechnology.com">lists@serioustechnology.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Geoffrey Myers wrote:<br>
>> > Jeff Hubbs wrote:<br>
>> >> Consider that the vast majority of people buy and use those drives<br>
>> >> without incident and never think to put a review saying so on any one<br>
>> >> particular vendor site.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > My thinking as well. People don't post about things that don't work.<br>
>><br>
>> People don't ost about things that DO work.<br>
>> Jeese, and I've already had my coffee this morning.<br>
>><br>
>> ><br>
>> >> On 3/2/12 11:18 AM, Neal Rhodes wrote:<br>
>> >>> I've gone ahead and ordered an HP core i3 system to be our next Centos<br>
>> >>> home/office server.<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> It's got a 1.5TB drive; normally on these off-lease units I'd buy two<br>
>> >>> brand new drives and mirror them. Or that's what we've done with the<br>
>> >>> last 3 linux servers. All of which are still technically<br>
>> >>> functioning since Fedora core 1.<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> This drive is likely about a year old, so I'm thinking I'll just buy a<br>
>> >>> new 1.5TB drive and install Centos to mirror the primary.<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> When I look at the crop of 1 - 1.5TB drives on TigerDirect and read<br>
>> >>> the reviews, they seem to be uniformly terrible - DOA, failed after 3<br>
>> >>> weeks, replacement failed after a week, etc. Seagate seems to be the<br>
>> >>> worst, although WD not too far behind.<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> Ummm, isn't one of the primary selling features of a disk drive that<br>
>> >>> it's not supposed to blow up and take down all your data with it?<br>
>> >>> Has there been a massive quality slip in the last couple years since I<br>
>> >>> last bought drives? Seriously - I can lose a power supply, a<br>
>> >>> motherboard, a display - you name it, and once I replace it I can<br>
>> >>> expect to still have the data. Yes, I should do backups, and I do,<br>
>> >>> and yes, I should mirror the drives, and I do. I should do SMARTD<br>
>> >>> monitoring and I do. But isn't this like selling tires that tend to<br>
>> >>> shred randomly? Isn't not blowing up catastrophically with no<br>
>> >>> warning beforehand a basic selling point for disk drives? What's<br>
>> >>> the point of mirroring if the odds are good that both drives will fail<br>
>> >>> completely the same week? What's the point of SMARTD monitoring if<br>
>> >>> the darn drive quits without warning?<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> Does anybody make a decent drive in that size range?<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> I'm thinking that not even considering economy, my old theory of<br>
>> >>> buying a pair of new identical drives may not be wise anymore, and<br>
>> >>> sticking with one drive that has lasted over a year and one new drive<br>
>> >>> is a better plan.<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> Thoughts?<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> Neal<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>><br>
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