I have tried Arch, and found it an absolute bear to install. I must admit I was doing the install as part of a series of installs at a LinuxFest and so could have been a little distracted. My problem was I forgot (or never knew) the drive number that grub was on, so I failed to get it to boot after install. Later, when I had less uproar around, I found the right drive and partition, and things worked better.<br>
<br>I am using Ubuntu servers and they are doing just fine. I am moving to Debian servers because they are what the evergreen-ils devs are developing on (for the most part) and what some of the heavy-hitter users are using. This makes asking and answering questions about the applications easier. <br>
<br>I have one community server running Ubuntu 12.04LTS(alpha). It is a bleeding-edge server for the devs and other users to play with. It is way off the norm, but it is fun occasionally to put a Seriously Unstable box on the network.<br>
<br>Wolf<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Brandon Colbert <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:colbert.brandon@gmail.com">colbert.brandon@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<p>Go debian!</p><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">
<div class="gmail_quote">On Dec 30, 2011 5:19 PM, "Jay Lozier" <<a href="mailto:jslozier@gmail.com" target="_blank">jslozier@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
On 12/30/2011 04:38 PM, Brian Mathis wrote:<br>
> It strikes me that you should have already answered these questions<br>
> before declaring what distro you will be switching to.<br>
><br>
> Have you spoken to your sysadmins about this? What platform is your<br>
> app deployed on in production? Whatever it is, your dev environment<br>
> needs to match exactly, and you need to be able to make sure updates<br>
> are consistent across all systems at any point in time.<br>
><br>
> Developers seem to always want the latest and greatest, and that<br>
> generally conflicts with the goals of the other parts of an<br>
> organization, both IT and Business. The business generally cares<br>
> about availability more than being cutting edge, since when the site<br>
> is down they cannot make money from it.<br>
><br>
> One of the most damaging things (from a systems perspective) that one<br>
> can do in a business is deploy a non-enterprise grade Linux<br>
> distribution. This is a clear sign that the sysadmin is just a<br>
> "computer guy" who happens to get paid to tinker, as opposed to<br>
> someone who really understands the value of true systems management.<br>
><br>
> Acceptable enterprise distros are Redhat (or CentOS), Suse, and<br>
> possibly Debian. Anything else and you are more likely making<br>
> decisions based on political or religious ideas about what is "better"<br>
> instead of any real criteria.<br>
I would add the comprehensiveness of the documentation/help is also<br>
important (Debian, Suse, Red Hat, Centos, & Ubuntu). Another item to<br>
consider is the availability of paid support either on an annual<br>
contract or per incident basis (Red Hat, Suse, & Ubuntu). Arch only has<br>
online documentation available. I can not comment on who has the best<br>
paid support, I have never used it with Linux.<br>
<br>
The most important issues for company are the uptime and stability for<br>
users. I echo that most users will not care about bleeding edge rather<br>
care about getting work done. Thus keeping the users/system up is more<br>
important than any particular distro. Depending on the balance of<br>
regular users versus system only/network backbone would color my<br>
selection. Personally I prefer 'buntu's but I realize my personal<br>
preferences may conflict with organizational needs, i.e. Red Hat is<br>
often a better choice for many situations.<br>
><br>
> ❧ Brian Mathis<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Narahari 'n' Savitha<br>
> <<a href="mailto:savithari@gmail.com" target="_blank">savithari@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> Friends:<br>
>><br>
>> I am about to switch from Ubuntu to Arch. The rolling update model of arch<br>
>> suits our dev team better is what I think is good.<br>
>><br>
>> Is anyone using Arch ?<br>
>> Anyone has had bad experience with Arch ?<br>
>> How bleeding edge is Arch ?<br>
>> How soon are fixes available in Arch usually ?<br>
>> Is AUR any better/worse than PPA ?<br>
>><br>
>> Appreciate your input.<br>
>><br>
>> Regards<br>
>> -Narahari<br>
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