You cannot guarantee you will win in anything, really. <br>You can guarantee you will not win a battle you don't fight.<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Shawn <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:taaj.shawn@gmail.com">taaj.shawn@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">call me cynical but we are fighting a war we will not win.. SOPA is a -retarded- bill that may pass .... patrtiot act... I wouldn't be surprised to see this one go through either. Hopefully with the support of pelosi and franken it won't but we will see.<br>
the thing that bothers me is they are trying to make something legal that they do already without due process. It wasn't but a few weeks ago with a seizure of 100+ domains in preparation for black friday. I think its a good idea to remove shit sites that fool people but at what cost? We give up a little and lose a ton. This type of domain seizure by govt agencies is already happening and is going to continue. .<br>
<a href="http://torrentfreak.com/feds-seize-130-domain-names-in-mass-crackdown-111125/" target="_blank">http://torrentfreak.com/feds-seize-130-domain-names-in-mass-crackdown-111125/</a><br><br>Even the stuff that is going on with CarrierIQ , its all just sickening. Atleast Franken has taken a step to get them talking more than their joke of a press release.<br>
<a href="http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2011/12/01/heres-the-letter-senator-al-franken-just-sent-to-phone-rootkit-firm-carrier-iq/" target="_blank">http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2011/12/01/heres-the-letter-senator-al-franken-just-sent-to-phone-rootkit-firm-carrier-iq/</a><div class="HOEnZb">
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<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 10:34 PM, Scott Castaline <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:skotchman@gmail.com" target="_blank">skotchman@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
I had already done it through EFF and went ahead and did it again<br>
through <a href="http://moveon.org" target="_blank">moveon.org</a>. Also just saw this article about<br>
<a href="http://globalchokepoints.org" target="_blank">globalchokepoints.org</a> on <a href="http://lwn.com" target="_blank">lwn.com</a> <a href="https://lwn.net/Articles/469985/" target="_blank">https://lwn.net/Articles/469985/</a><br>
<div><div>On 11/30/2011 10:08 AM, Erik Mathis wrote:<br>
> This was easy and only took 3 minutes of my day.<br>
><br>
> -Erik-<br>
><br>
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 7:42 PM, Raylynn Knight<<a href="mailto:seca900rider@gmail.com" target="_blank">seca900rider@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> I seldom agree with Aaron when it comes to politics, but I believe this proposed legislation is the one mentioned by EFF @ <a href="https://eff.org/r.C8A" target="_blank">https://eff.org/r.C8A</a> and I would prefer people use that link to protest.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Sent from my iPhone<br>
>><br>
>> On Nov 29, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Aaron Ruscetta<<a href="mailto:arxaaron@gmail.com" target="_blank">arxaaron@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> The blood sucking corporapists are once again attacking<br>
>>> our U.S. Constitution, our Freedom of Speech, the Internet<br>
>>> and Fair Use. Sign the petition to call a stop to this fascist<br>
>>> rape of America and theft of our Civil Liberties:<br>
>>><br>
>>> <<a href="https://pol.moveon.org/nointernetcensorship/?id=33343-17936664-jZKvLzx&t=2" target="_blank">https://pol.moveon.org/nointernetcensorship/?id=33343-17936664-jZKvLzx&t=2</a>><br>
>>><br>
>>> The legislation would allow the immediate shutdown of entire<br>
>>> URL blocks based on any unsubstantiated whims of corporate<br>
>>> media monopolists, leeching copyright hoarders and putrid<br>
>>> patent trolls.<br>
>>><br>
>>> peace<br>
>>> aaron<br>
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