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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Just to nitpick – usually “is this thing on” is said when the speaker gets no reaction to something and fears the microphone didn’t pick
it up.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">When presidential candidate Ronald Reagan made his infamous ethnic joke with a mike he didn’t know was on he did NOT say “is this thing
on”. The spin after the fact was that he was telling it as an example of the kind of “humor” he finds deplorable.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma"> ale-bounces@ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org]
<b><span style="font-weight:
bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Jim Kinney<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, November 30, 2011 1:15 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [ale] PGP / GPG key 0x450F89EC <pause@pause.perl.org></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:
12.0pt">On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Michael B. Trausch <<a href="mailto:mike@trausch.us">mike@trausch.us</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:
12.0pt">On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 11:07:48AM -0500, Jim Kinney wrote:<br>
>> I *will not* under any circumstances sign UIDs that I feel are<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:
12.0pt">>> intentionally misleading. A If Jim Kinney brings me a key with both<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">>> his UID and a UID with the name "Mike Warfield" on it, I will not<br>
>> sign that key.<br>
><br>
> dang. back to the evil genius drawing board. Total World Domination<br>
> postponed until further notice.<br>
><br>
> is this thing on?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:
12.0pt">Sure is. :)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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you TOTALLY missed the joke!<br>
"is thing on?" , refers to a speaker suddenly aware of the microphone near them after they said something not meant to be public knowledge.<br>
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arrgh! tough room.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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For me, it'd depend on if the key is misleading or simply doesn't<br>
match the owner's ID (and why). Mike Warfield mentioned corporate<br>
keys, for example; if someone presented me with a corporate key, it<br>
would not gain my signature unless:<br>
<br>
* That person proved their identity to me.<br>
<br>
* That person is allowed to enter into binding agreements on behalf<br>
of the corporation. That is, the person is the CEO (listed on the<br>
Secretary of State's web site as such) of the corporation or there<br>
is a corporate resolution enabling the person to enter into binding<br>
agreements on behalf of the corporation.<br>
<br>
* Failing the previous point, a corporate resolution authorizing the<br>
person to generate, have possession of, and/or use the key.<br>
<br>
* If a corporate resolution is used, it must be appropriately sealed<br>
and I'd withold my signature on the key until I'd validated the<br>
resolution that was presented. (And they'd actually have to give<br>
me the resolution; the corporation should make multiple<br>
properly-sealed copies of it so that I would be allowed to retain<br>
one.)<br>
<br>
In other words, I probably won't ever sign a corporate key. Maybe<br>
that's why corporations use SSL over OpenPGP.<br>
<br>
--- Mike<br>
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