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Hi Richard,<br>
<br>
Thanks for the info. I wasn't sure 1 computer could share it's screen
and view others on another screen, but you may be right there. We
won't need Git at first, since we'll be typing examples from a
textbook. Later if we start developing our own code, we'll probably
implement it. I'll check out the Google+ thing. I've heard about it,
but am not familiar with it.<br>
<br>
Sincerely,<br>
<br>
Ron<br>
<br>
On 10/21/2011 5:28 PM, Richard Bronosky wrote:
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cite="mid:CAAjbB_5yNncFNu+Wae5mYfYvnzCCNF4DqsjCW9kznf-RaXTTiw@mail.gmail.com"
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<p>I think you are over complicating the issue with the 2 computers.
Collaboration is very easy if you can agree on just a few things.<br>
1. Use a Distributed Version Control System. I recommend git and <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://github.com">http://github.com</a><br>
2. All collaboration will happen via SSH connections to a server or the
workstation of someone who knows how to do NAT forwarding on their
router.<br>
3. Use command line text editors.<br>
4. For audio, just use a Google+ Hangout. At my company we hire remote
full-time employees. I have interviewed dozens of developers using
several free and commercial technologies. Nothing is better.</p>
<p>On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 3:20 PM, Ron Frazier <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:atllinuxenthinfo@c3energy.com">atllinuxenthinfo@c3energy.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
> Hello all,<br>
><br>
> I want to thank those who've replied to this thread previously.
I'll be<br>
> considering all those pieces of advice as my programming project<br>
> advances, and will probably post other messages here about them.
I'm<br>
> not quoting the whole thread here, because I want to ask some
questions<br>
> about technology setup, so I and a couple of partners can begin
learning<br>
> Java programming collaboratively. Essentially, I and Scott
Castaline<br>
> and possibly one other person, not part of this group, whom I
shall call<br>
> Sam for now, wish to all participate in a learning experience to
learn<br>
> to program in Java. (If there is a Sam in the group, he's not
related<br>
> to this discussion.) At least at first, we'll be working through
one of<br>
> the Deitel and Deitel textbooks. These have the unique advantage
of<br>
> having lots of case studies and exercises to look at. We want to
be<br>
> able to participate in the experience together in real time, by<br>
> collaborating over the internet. I will be running Ubuntu 10.04,
Scott<br>
> will probably be running Fedora 15, and Sam will probably be
running<br>
> Ubuntu 11.04.<br>
><br>
> I want to enable 2 features to enable collaboration. 1)
Multiparty VOIP<br>
> voice conferencing, and 2) Multiparty screen sharing<br>
><br>
> Here's how I want this to work. Each person will have two
computers to<br>
> use. One machine will be their development machine, with the
editor,<br>
> compiler, IDE, and other Java development related tools. The
second<br>
> computer will be their voip machine and viewer machine.<br>
><br>
> For item 1), Multiparty VOIP voice conferencing, I want each of the<br>
> three people to be able to join a VOIP conference such that each
one can<br>
> wear a computer headset and each one can talk and the other two
can hear<br>
> him, just like a conference call.<br>
><br>
> For item 2), Multiparty screen sharing, it gets a bit more
complicated.<br>
><br>
> Let's designate the computers for each person as follows:<br>
><br>
> Dev-Ron<br>
> Viewer-Ron<br>
><br>
> Dev-Scott<br>
> Viewer-Scott<br>
><br>
> Dev-Sam<br>
> Viewer-Sam<br>
><br>
> Each person will share their Dev screen with the other two people,
in<br>
> view only mode. Each person will view the other two people's Dev<br>
> screens in windows on his Viewer screen.<br>
><br>
> So, the contents of the screens would be as follows:<br>
><br>
> Dev-Ron - Ron's development environment<br>
> Viewer-Ron<br>
> a window containing an image of Scott's Dev screen<br>
> a window containing an image of Sam's Dev screen<br>
><br>
> Dev-Scott - Scott's development environment<br>
> Viewer-Scott<br>
> a window containing an image of Ron's Dev screen<br>
> a window containing an image of Sam's Dev screen<br>
><br>
> Dev-Sam - Sam's development environment<br>
> Viewer-Sam<br>
> a window containing an image of Ron's Dev screen<br>
> a window containing an image of Scott's Dev screen<br>
><br>
> I hope that makes any sense whatsoever. If it works, every
participant<br>
> will be able to see whatever the other two are doing and every one
will<br>
> be able to talk to every one. Note that I don't need pictures of
the<br>
> people, just the computer screens of their Dev systems. Note also
that<br>
> this is different from a situation where there is one presenter,
since<br>
> every party is both a presenter and a viewer.<br>
><br>
> This needs to be free open source software, and should not require
any<br>
> fees to participate.<br>
><br>
> I'm thinking Ventrillo might work for voice, if available for
Linux.<br>
> I'm thinking that TeamViewer might work for the screen sharing.
I'm not<br>
> sure if either can do multiparty conferencing, and I'm sure that
there<br>
> are other options.<br>
><br>
> Leave it to me to try to grab a tiger by the tail, as I'm sure
this will<br>
> be complicated. I've done point to point remote control before,
but<br>
> nothing like this. Any advice on how to get this working would be<br>
> appreciated. Thanks in advance.<br>
><br>
> Sincerely confused,<br>
><br>
> Ron<br>
><br>
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