<p>mal·ware Noun: Software that is intended to damage or disable computers and computer systems. </p>
<p>I note the definition does not refer to delivery or activation methods. </p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Oct 13, 2011 9:34 PM, "planas" <<a href="mailto:jslozier@gmail.com">jslozier@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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On Thu, 2011-10-13 at 20:41 -0400, David Tomaschik wrote:
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On 10/13/2011 06:23 PM, Pat Regan wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 17:16:50 -0400
> David Tomaschik <<a href="mailto:david@systemoverlord.com" target="_blank">david@systemoverlord.com</a>> wrote:
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>> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Pat Regan <<a href="mailto:thehead@patshead.com" target="_blank">thehead@patshead.com</a>>
>> wrote:
>>> If the malware in question here were using an exploit, why would it
>>> bother trying to get the user to click on it?
>>>
>>> Pat
>> You've never seen "AntiVirus 2009" (and I imagine there is 2010, 2011,
>> etc., but I stopped doing any Windows support in 2009). It's malware
>> that pretends to do an AV scan, finds a list of things, and tells you
>> it can remove them... for $39.99. You go to their website, put in
>> their credit card details, and you're toast. I'm not sure if they
>> actually charge you $39.99, just capture your CC info, or both. Never
>> tried it to find out.
>>
> I understand the concept. What I'm saying is that any malware that
> has to trick someone into installing it is almost certainly not making
> use of any exploits. If it were, it wouldn't need to attempt to
> socially engineer the user.
>
> Pat
>
It's not socially engineering anyone into installing it. It's socially
engineering you into pulling out your credit card and giving them your
details. Last I checked, malware can't reach into my pocket, take out
my wallet, and read my credit card. I hope. (USB RFID reader + "tap to
pay" ?)
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If a phone homing keylogger is installed you could be giving someone your credit card number.<br>
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