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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Yep – RedHat announced more than a year ago that they were dropping support for Itanium so there isn’t a surprise that RHEL6 isn’t available
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Just to make life interesting Oracle recently announced they’re not going to support Itanium any more for their DB and application software.
This happened not long after they bought Sun which makes competing hardware and Solaris OS. If you’re an optimist and feel everyone does things for good reasons you figure Oracle did it because everyone else is dropping support for Itanium. If you’re a real
world kind of person you can’t help but wonder if they didn’t drop it to make HP suck wind so they can sell more Sun/Solaris stuff. :-)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">I’d say almost certainly the model you’re looking for is discontinued. The latest info I found for it was from 2004 and that wasn’t
exclusively for it and unfortunately didn’t give any useful details. HP used to put out periodic guides for their systems and I actually found a couple we have lying around for the HP 9000 (server) stuff from 2000-2002 but since we didn’t really use the
workstations here (except on our V class servers that required a “test station” which is how I ended up with the one I have) we never had the books for Workstation class machines.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma"> ale-bounces@ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org]
<b><span style="font-weight:
bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Andrew Wade<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Friday, July 15, 2011 3:59 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [ale] HP Visualize J210XC Workstation</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Red Hat's last release on Itanium is 5.x<br>
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<a href="https://rhn.redhat.com/rhn/software/channel/downloads/Download.do?cid=6965">Red Hat Enterprise Linux (v. 5 for 64-bit Itanium)
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So their newest OS, RHEL 6.0 is only offered in x86, x86_64, and IBM System Z<br>
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Andrew<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt">On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Greg Clifton <<a href="mailto:gccfof5@gmail.com">gccfof5@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt">Well, I din't have presence of mind to ask about OS. The purchasing agent just gave me a HP part number, and I had no idea what it even was until I did a bit of googling.
So far I haven't been able to drill down to the actual system specs. All the documents I am finding on the HP site for this model are dated 2004, so I assume it is obsolete.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt">To my recollection, nobody even develops OSes for Itanium any more. I know M$ quit a year or two back and seems I recently saw something about Ubuntu or maybe it was
RedHat ceasing development. If it is in fact an "Itanic" system, then HP is the only game in town, and I probably wouldn't be authorized to buy it, even if they still make them. We're a white box system builder and don't have any big brand authorizations (HP,
IBM, etc.). However, if it is discontinued, maybe they would accept a used one, which I could probably buy from one of the system recyclers?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt">On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Lightner, Jeff <<a href="mailto:JLightner@water.com" target="_blank">JLightner@water.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy">I happen to have a Visualize B180L sitting here running Debian which has a
port to PA-RISC. This one is a 32 bit machine. I’m thinking the J was probably a 64 bit machine.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy">HP’s used PA-RISC processors built by HP until a few years ago when you could
get either PA-RISC or Itanium (at least in the HP 9000 servers). As you surmised this is actually workstation class machine and unfortunately I don’t know if they offered similar in that class though I’m guessing they did. (In server class they were using
rp for PA-RISC and rx for Itanium so it may be the X here means Itanium.)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy">So the main question would be what OS and version do they want to run? HP-UX
up through 11.11 (a/k/a 11iV1) only ran on PA-RISC. 11.22 ran on Itanium IIRC and 11.23 ran on PA-RISC (these were a/k/a 11iV2). 11.3x ran on either IIRC. However, HP discontinued manufacture of PA-RISC based systems at the end of 2009 so the only servers
they build now for HP-UX are the Itanium ones.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Greg Clifton<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Friday, July 15, 2011 2:31 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts</st1:PersonName> - Yes! We run Linux!<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> [ale] HP Visualize J210XC Workstation</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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one of these/or equivalent. From what I have found on HP web site it is a HP UX box, that I am assuming is discontinued, but I haven't been able to drill down to the system specs to see if I could build an eq system for them. Can anybody with HP experience
give me some pointers on where to look?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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