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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>At Atlanta Unix Users Group (AUUG) meeting
last night one of the folks was suggesting there could be an issue with KDE
because it relies on QT which was made by Troll Tech which has since been
bought by Nokia. However, this link seems to suggest that isn’t a problem:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><a
href="http://www.kde.org/community/whatiskde/kdefreeqtfoundation.php">http://www.kde.org/community/whatiskde/kdefreeqtfoundation.php</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>That link was found in the following;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><a
href="http://www.kde.org/community/history/qtissue.php">http://www.kde.org/community/history/qtissue.php</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>P.S. He wasn’t dissing KDE – he likes it
and only mentioned it as an aside. This was after someone complained about
Ubuntu which started the Unity discussion which led him to say most folks
should use kubuntu instead.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
ale-bounces@ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Jim Kinney<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, June 07, 2011 10:53
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Atlanta
Linux Enthusiasts</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [ale] gnome3. I give
up.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>QT is pretty kewl! The
joining of python and QT is very easy and powerful. My one regret is that QT
was originally not an opensource toolset and that led to the gnome world. Gnome
had a "bigger idea" set than KDE but because/"in spite of"
it using nearly anything that runs and a gui toolkit API (GTK looks just fine
as does QT and Wx. They all look better than anything java!) gnome is now quite
a hodgepodge of code spaghetti (gnome 3 was supposed to do some massive clean
up but I think they got lost along the way and went all tablet happy).<br>
<br>
So far, neither KDE nor Gnome have fulfilled their big picture promise to my
satisfaction. Seamless integration of applications is a long way off. Sharing a
mouse cut-n-paste buffer is just not enough.<br>
<br>
At one point, the gnome plan was to be able to send data to someone who didn't
have the application to read/play it and gnome was going to be able to use the
senders desktop ability to render the data into sound and graphic bit and
stream them back to the receiver regardless of their current platform. Security
was to handled by a combination of kerberos and user tokens to allow access to
the required applications for the sole purpose of using that access for that
data set only. But instead they got bogged down making widgets that are still
half finished as well as a brand, Ximian, that used a fornicating monkey as
their mascot and inter-process communication daemon, bonobo before latching
onto the C# dotnet crap.<br>
<br>
ADHD is truly a pandemic in the IT world and Linux-land in particular!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Charles Shapiro <<a
href="mailto:hooterpincher@gmail.com">hooterpincher@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Still a big phan of KDE4 here. And of course XFCE for that Old<br>
Hardware. Bloat is a relative term in today's hardware environment.<br>
<br>
I'm really curious about what'll happen to QT after Nokia has<br>
essentially dropped it. I'd love to see QT become the linux desktop<br>
interface library of choice. I've used it on a fairly big C++ project<br>
and really liked it. I found the API well laid-out and featureful.<br>
<br>
-- CHS<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 9:00 AM, <st1:place w:st="on">Preston</st1:place>
Boyington<br>
<<a href="mailto:preston.lists@gmail.com">preston.lists@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
> David Tomaschik wrote:<br>
>> On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 8:22 AM, Damon Chesser <<a
href="mailto:dchesser@acsi2000.com">dchesser@acsi2000.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>><br>
>>> I think we should email Linus and ask him what DE he uses, that
*must* be the correct one. I do remember he seriously dised Gnome a few
years back because they dumbed it all down, but somehow I can't see him using
KDE4 with all that bloat. OTHO, many here like KDE4, bloat and all.<br>
>>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> <a
href="http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linus-torvalds-switched-back-to-gnome.html"
target="_blank">http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linus-torvalds-switched-back-to-gnome.html</a><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
><br>
> I believe he also uses Suse (or did when I looked it up) as his distro.<br>
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As long as the general population is passive, apathetic, diverted to
consumerism or hatred of the vulnerable, then the powerful can do as they
please, and those who survive will be left to contemplate the outcome.<br>
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