<p>You are exhorted. Great work taking on the empire!</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Jun 7, 2011 7:03 PM, "Edward Holcroft" <<a href="mailto:eholcroft@mkainc.com">eholcroft@mkainc.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution">> Got them to refund last month, but it's true, you have to subscribe to some<br>
> form of data plan if you have a smart phone on the AT&T network whether or<br>> not you use 3G.<br>> <br>> Feeling extorted.<br>> <br>> Thanks<br>> ed<br>> <br>> On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 15:34, Lightner, Jeff <<a href="mailto:JLightner@water.com">JLightner@water.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>>> I once had Awful T&T argue with my niece over some bogus subscription<br>>> charges she was receiving passed on by AT&T. They didn't want to come<br>>> off the charges although they said they weren't responsible. Since I<br>
>> was pretty sure they were getting a cut I asked to be transferred to the<br>>> Security department saying that it was clearly "fraud" by this third<br>>> party. It was amazing how quickly they took the charges off the bill<br>
>> when I started talking about that.<br>>><br>>> -----Original Message-----<br>>> From: <a href="mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org">ale-bounces@ale.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org">ale-bounces@ale.org</a>] On Behalf Of<br>
>> scott<br>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 2:49 PM<br>>> To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts<br>>> Subject: Re: [ale] OT: AT&T data charge<br>>><br>>> if you read your license agreement (EULA?) that you had to sign when<br>
>> you got the simcard/original phone there is verbiage in there. It<br>>> blows. I think it is wrong. But any non-dumb phone has to have a data<br>>> plan. I had to have an employee show me where it was. it was burried<br>
>> in the middle of a paragraph. Both AT&T and Verizon care about what<br>>> phone you have and charges appropriately. T-Mobile doesnt care but<br>>> doesnt allow you to use services you dont pay for (texting is either<br>
>> paid for OR you pay $0.10@ with t-mobile). I took my mom's sim car<br>>> put it in my google smart phone and it works with no extra charges<br>>> except she didnt have any data traffic. Only phone/SMS. Once I<br>
>> switched my card back in it fully worked.<br>>><br>>> fight it but dont be surprised if they dont buckle.<br>>><br>>> On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 2:37 PM, Richard Bronosky <<a href="mailto:Richard@bronosky.com">Richard@bronosky.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>>> > They have to generate a signature or a voice recording of your consent<br>>> > in order to add that charge. Fight them. Don't try to continue using<br>>> > the device. But for the one month where you were uninformed of their<br>
>> > choice to charge extra for the same service based on the device<br>>> > consuming it, don't give in.<br>>> ><br>>> > On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Edward Holcroft <<a href="mailto:eholcroft@mkainc.com">eholcroft@mkainc.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>>> >> All<br>>> >> My daughter recently got a used iPhone and put her AT simcard from<br>>> her<br>>> >> non-smartphone in - kids just gotta have an iPhone, ya know. She only<br>
>> >> accesses data using wifi and 3G is switched off. This month I get my<br>>> phone<br>>> >> bill and they've added a $30 3G data plan even though she did not use<br>>> any<br>>> >> ATT data. When I queried with AT&T they said I am not permitted to<br>
>> use a<br>>> >> smartphone without a data plan, even if I do not access ATT data.<br>>> >> Does anyone know about this? Is this even legal? It just seems<br>>> fraudulent.<br>>> >> Is this even worth contesting or do I choose to either pay up or<br>
>> switch back<br>>> >> to the old phone?<br>>> >> ed<br>>> >><br>>> >> --<br>>> >> Edward Holcroft<br>>> >> Madsen Kneppers & Associates Inc.<br>
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