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That I'm aware of all of the major carriers require a data plan with use of a smart phone on their network. <BR>
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Here's one better that I ran into. I wanted to add another line to our family plan. We had already purchased a phone on Ebay and all I wanted to do was add the phone on a shared minute plan with my other phone. Sprint is happy to do this but only if you sign a two year agreement! Even if the equipment is your own equipment! Early termination fees apply!! Even to your own equipment. Needless to say we are in the process of switching to a carrier that has no contracts and offers a plan that better fits our needs.<BR>
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11-years on Sprint for us and they are almost paranoid (for lack of a better word) at loosing us as a customer that they have to lock us into two-years servitude by signing a contract bonding our bank account to theirs. Thanks but no thanks. So long Sprint.......Getting off the soapbox.<BR>
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RinL<BR>
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<B>From</B>: Edward Holcroft <<A HREF="mailto:Edward%20Holcroft%20%3ceholcroft@mkainc.com%3e">eholcroft@mkainc.com</A>><BR>
<B>Reply-to</B>: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts <ale@ale.org><BR>
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<B>Subject</B>: Re: [ale] OT: AT&T data charge<BR>
<B>Date</B>: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 19:02:06 -0400<BR>
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Got them to refund last month, but it's true, you have to subscribe to some form of data plan if you have a smart phone on the AT&T network whether or not you use 3G.
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Feeling extorted.
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Thanks
ed
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On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 15:34, Lightner, Jeff <<A HREF="mailto:JLightner@water.com">JLightner@water.com</A>> wrote:<BR>
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I once had Awful T&T argue with my niece over some bogus subscription<BR>
charges she was receiving passed on by AT&T. They didn't want to come<BR>
off the charges although they said they weren't responsible. Since I<BR>
was pretty sure they were getting a cut I asked to be transferred to the<BR>
Security department saying that it was clearly "fraud" by this third<BR>
party. It was amazing how quickly they took the charges off the bill<BR>
when I started talking about that.<BR>
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if you read your license agreement (EULA?) that you had to sign when<BR>
you got the simcard/original phone there is verbiage in there. It<BR>
blows. I think it is wrong. But any non-dumb phone has to have a data<BR>
plan. I had to have an employee show me where it was. it was burried<BR>
in the middle of a paragraph. Both AT&T and Verizon care about what<BR>
phone you have and charges appropriately. T-Mobile doesnt care but<BR>
doesnt allow you to use services you dont pay for (texting is either<BR>
paid for OR you pay $0.10@ with t-mobile). I took my mom's sim car<BR>
put it in my google smart phone and it works with no extra charges<BR>
except she didnt have any data traffic. Only phone/SMS. Once I<BR>
switched my card back in it fully worked.<BR>
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fight it but dont be surprised if they dont buckle.<BR>
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On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 2:37 PM, Richard Bronosky <<A HREF="mailto:Richard@bronosky.com">Richard@bronosky.com</A>><BR>
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> They have to generate a signature or a voice recording of your consent<BR>
> in order to add that charge. Fight them. Don't try to continue using<BR>
> the device. But for the one month where you were uninformed of their<BR>
> choice to charge extra for the same service based on the device<BR>
> consuming it, don't give in.<BR>
><BR>
> On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Edward Holcroft <<A HREF="mailto:eholcroft@mkainc.com">eholcroft@mkainc.com</A>><BR>
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>> All<BR>
>> My daughter recently got a used iPhone and put her AT simcard from<BR>
her<BR>
>> non-smartphone in - kids just gotta have an iPhone, ya know. She only<BR>
>> accesses data using wifi and 3G is switched off. This month I get my<BR>
phone<BR>
>> bill and they've added a $30 3G data plan even though she did not use<BR>
any<BR>
>> ATT data. When I queried with AT&T they said I am not permitted to<BR>
use a<BR>
>> smartphone without a data plan, even if I do not access ATT data.<BR>
>> Does anyone know about this? Is this even legal? It just seems<BR>
fraudulent.<BR>
>> Is this even worth contesting or do I choose to either pay up or<BR>
switch back<BR>
>> to the old phone?<BR>
>> ed<BR>
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