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Gentoo user peers in and opines, "My, what strange and exotic
problems these people seem to be having..."<br>
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In Gentoo, new versions of packages - to include major revisions
like Gnome 3, KDE4, or Python 3 - are not associated with versions
of distribution because there *are no* versions of the distribution;
a given package's version is available for a Gentoo instance once
its managers mark it stable (you can, of course, unmask it for
inclusion *before* it's marked stable if you want). Portage (the
package management system) will sort out and handle the
dependencies. There's no need to keep up with a shifting repository
diaspora to obtain obvious common packages; there is really only one
repository that's mirrored around the world (you can generate a
local copy if you like; it's on the order of 100GiB) and only in the
case of an extreme outlier (or non-open/unreleaseable code or
binaries that you might be trafficking in) will you need to
establish an overlay for a package that's not in Portage; this is
very useful in institutional settings. <br>
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There's no need for torrents, version release parties, multi-gig CD
or DVD sets; any general-purpose liveCD is fine for installation or,
once you've got a starting-point instance for a given architecture
built how you like it, you can just blow a backup of it onto other
hardware, configure and run grub, boot it up, run "emerge --sync
&& emerge -uD world" and in a little while you'll have a
fully updated new instance. <br>
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Generally, when I'm working in Linux, at any given moment I'm
interested in the behavior of a handful of packages and the results
I get from them; I don't care to vibrate a lot of brain cells over
distribution issues. I don't have to scratch my head over why on a
brand new version of a certain Linux distribution, I'm stuck with a
two-and-a-half-year-old version of CUPS or some such.<br>
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And when I emerge a package on a given machine, it's nice to know
that the gcc invocation will be flagged for the exact type of CPU
I've got with the various optimization flags set to be as safe or as
radical as I feel like having them be. <br>
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On 5/25/11 10:59 PM, Jim Kinney wrote:
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cite="mid:BANLkTimXFUfEkP-gYqv1E3quv=AzZDdt0w@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">Fedora is a single DVD download. No CD iso's. <br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 10:20 PM, David
Hillman <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:hillmands@gmail.com">hillmands@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt
0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);
padding-left: 1ex;">I am going through similar issues with
Ubuntu 11.04. Libreoffice is nice, but Unity isn't doing it
for me on the Ubuntu end. I want to try Gnome 3 to see how it
is, but my only other machine that I have that might support
that is a Macbook Pro. Unfortunately, Virtualbox doesn't seem
to have what it takes to support Gnome3. A good option is to
get Gnome 3 on Ubuntu 11.04. My limited research seems to
head in the million-headaches-to-suffer-through direction.
There is too much other work to be done right now for that.
It'll be far easier to swap in a new hard drive in the new
Toshiba and install Fedora, despite my dislike for RPM. Does
still have the 10 CDs or 2 DVDs download? Since when did
things become so....complicated? My grandfather would
probably start giving his speech about too many cooks in the
kitchen right about now.<br>
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<div class="im">On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 10:52 PM, Jim Kinney
<span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:jim.kinney@gmail.com" target="_blank">jim.kinney@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<p>Upgrading laptop to fedora 15 and noticed that
openoffice was replaced with libreoffice. Oracle
really pissed off a lot of people.<br>
Also I actually read the fedora docs and realized that
gnome3 effectively requires a two handed user. The
active spot to launch applications requires both alt
key and left mouse simultaneously to use. What was
gnome devel thinking?</p>
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James P. Kinney III<br>
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As long as the general population is passive, apathetic, diverted
to consumerism or hatred of the vulnerable, then the powerful can
do as they please, and those who survive will be left to
contemplate the outcome.<br>
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