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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The first time I saw X was on a Sun loner
box that came in with a graphics card and monitor. I think it was Solaris
2. The aquarium screen saver seemed amazing but sucked up all the CPU power.
Up until then I’d only used CLI for AT&T & SCO UNIX and a hodgepodge of
other things.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I didn’t start using X full time until
around 1996 when I began working on HP-UX. Many of their tools had X modes as
well as CLI. Back then the consoles weren’t graphic though – most of the X I
saw was using Exceed on a Windows deskstop.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The first time I saw MS Windows it was
something you launched from DOS. I inherited a PC from a tech writer that had
it. I launched it and after playing around a bit decided I didn’t need that “namby
pamby GUI stuff”. These days I have a better appreciation for GUIs but still
spend most of my time in CLI.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
ale-bounces@ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Jim Kinney<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, April 19, 2011
10:25 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Atlanta
Linux Enthusiasts</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [ale] Unix
Automation?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Geoffrey Myers <<a
href="mailto:lists@serioustechnology.com">lists@serioustechnology.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Damon L. Chesser wrote:<br>
> On Mon, 2011-04-18 at 08:51 -0400, Chris Fowler wrote:<br>
>> On Mon, 2011-04-18 at 05:23 -0700, Damon Chesser wrote:<br>
>>> I am curious, having never used Unix, anybody have a clue what
he<br>
>>> might have meant?<br>
>> What he meant was that he was not really a UNIX geek and that Linux<br>
>> perplexed him :)<br>
>><br>
>> Sorry, I've never bit**ed about things being automatic. If
anything<br>
>> I've complained about things being too automatic making it harder for<br>
>> newbies to learn the internals so they can fix real problems.<br>
>><br>
>> As I said before. When I got into Linux vi was our config tool
and we<br>
>> learned more about UNIX then than a noob will learn today in the same<br>
>> amount of time. If you had to download a base X config and then<br>
>> configure it for your desktop using vi then raise your hand....<br>
>> Everyone else get off my lawn!<br>
><br>
> My hand is raised. 30 days to get X running on my first Linux
install.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Yeah, I remember installing my first Slackware from floppies. Two
days<br>
later I was dancing a jig because I saw: login:<br>
<br>
A week later, I had X running.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Wow! My first X run took a month of evenings and weekends. Between bad timing
docs on my monitor and nearly toasting one in tests, X was really not making
the SWMBO happy.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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>><br>
>> Chris<br>
>><br>
><br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Until later, Geoffrey<br>
<br>
"I predict future happiness for <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">America</st1:place></st1:country-region> if they can prevent<br>
the government from wasting the labors of the people under<br>
the pretense of taking care of them."<br>
- Thomas Jefferson<br>
_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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James P. Kinney III<br>
I would rather stumble along in freedom than walk effortlessly in chains.<br>
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