I took MSFT off of my resume for the very reason of not wanting to have to justify it to people anymore. <a href="https://github.com/RichardBronosky/resume/blob/master/richard.paul.bronosky.resume.tex#L85">https://github.com/RichardBronosky/resume/blob/master/richard.paul.bronosky.resume.tex#L85</a><br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 2:33 AM, Brian Schenken <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:brian.schenken@gmail.com">brian.schenken@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
No wordsmithery could make his silly prejudice reasonable. He may be<br>
looking for what you accept is a different breed, but he needs to<br>
figure out how to articulate it without delving into his own emotional<br>
bias. Having written in .net is not evidence of some sort of<br>
weakness.<br>
<br>
Yeah, there's a tremendous market for worthless certs that has<br>
polluted IT's and other's talent pools. The quality of education out<br>
there has nothing to do with the value of any given technology.<br>
That's apples and oranges...<br>
<br>
<br>
On Tuesday, March 29, 2011, Don Lachlan<br>
<div><div></div><div class="h5"><<a href="http://ale-at-ale.org" target="_blank">ale-at-ale.org</a>@<a href="http://unpopularminds.org" target="_blank">unpopularminds.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 5:17 PM, <<a href="mailto:brian.schenken@gmail.com">brian.schenken@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> I hate emotional evangelism like this... "dignified OS" OS's don't have<br>
>> dignity, they have function - purpose. "every day spent learning a Microsoft<br>
>> kitchen takes TWO days to unlearn, " Bologna. Changing languages is hard, it<br>
>> doesn't matter from what to what. That's why I try not to work on more than<br>
>> one project at a time.<br>
><br>
> You're talking about apples when he's talking about oranges and I<br>
> think you completely missed his point.<br>
><br>
> Seeing .NET on a resume triggers a "Why?" question in his head that he<br>
> wants answered. If it's sprinkled inside a dozen others, it's likely<br>
> easy to explain away - "Employer X wanted Product Y and .NET was a<br>
> requirement." OTOH, if's .NET is alone or in a short list of languages<br>
> on a resume, it's likely exactly what he's concerned about. Same issue<br>
> has been seen with other "easy" languages like Perl, PHP, Java, VB,<br>
> etc.. Nothing new there.<br>
><br>
> But more than that, he's looking for something special. For the people<br>
> he's looking for, changing languages is not hard. Takes time, some<br>
> effort, but not hard. It's the difference between a computer scientist<br>
> and a programmer. Real the Joel on Software piece and it's the same<br>
> thing - Joel is looking for computer scientists and universities are<br>
> churning out programmers because there are a lot more jobs for<br>
> programmers than computer scientists.<br>
><br>
>> There are times when .net is the best solution. Yep, BEST. And it's not just<br>
>> the crappy / redundant jobs, sometimes there's a really deep, challenging<br>
>> project (I'm talking working with sockets, threads, file I/O here - the good<br>
>> stuff) that would be best done with .net. There are times when fast, stable,<br>
>> perl would be better suited. On occasion you need free, and DIY - but some<br>
>> needs call for something bloaty, expensive and externally supported. The<br>
><br>
> Sure, I could write a web browser in Perl, but "Why?" Sure, I could<br>
> write a mail server in PHP, but "Why?" .NET is a nice platform with<br>
> some great uses. Hey, if you're working in a homogenous environment,<br>
> Microsoft Office and Exchange and ISS are killer. But would any of<br>
> these be my preferred choice? Possible but unlikely.<br>
><br>
>> If this guy were to interview me and ask me to<br>
>> justify it I would turn the question back on him: "Can't you think of any<br>
>> scenario where .net would be the best choice?" If he says no or gives some<br>
>> McDonalds metaphor - I think I'd say he failed the interview.<br>
><br>
> Strawman argument. The author states there are cases where .NET is the<br>
> preferred choice, such as Windows Mobile 7 apps. You are full of fail.<br>
><br>
> OTOH, if you can't justify your choice for .NET, if your answer to<br>
> "Why?" is "Because," you aren't the material he's looking for. You<br>
> don't even understand what that material is.<br>
><br>
> -L<br>
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