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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Like I said it just sounded wrong to
me. As I noted it sounded that way to me because calling something
a subset in conversation (as opposed to in mathematics) implies to me that it
was taken from the main set and therefore wasn’t the original whereas
saying something is a superset of something else implies to me that it is an
extension of the original.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>It’s all semantics and my post wasn’t
meant as an attack. “Sounds wrong to me” was an
expression of an opinion not an absolute statement of fact.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>One of my favorite essays was by George
Orwell on the use of language. What always stood out from that for
me was his lamenting of the “not un” formation in speech.
He noted that saying something is “not un” is the same as saying it
“is” so why not just say that? He offered a sentence similar
to the following as a way to cure oneself of using it:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>“The not unbrown dog chased the not
unwhite rabbit through the not ungreen field.”<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Personally I disagreed with what he wrote about
“not un” as I believe it is used for emphasizing a positive rather
than negating a negative but I understood his point. It was not
unlike my ramblings about the difference between subset and superset. :-)<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
northrup@gmail.com [mailto:northrup@gmail.com] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Dylan Northrup<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, March 23, 2011
1:15 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Atlanta
Linux Enthusiasts</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> Lightner, Jeff<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [ale] Bash - Advanced
Scripting Guide</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 10:06 AM, Lightner, Jeff <<a
href="mailto:jlightner@water.com">jlightner@water.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Calling Bourne a "subset" of BASH just sounds wrong to me -
it implies BASH was first. Since Korn shell was an enhanced shell that
built on Bourne and BASH takes a lot from both I'd say calling BASH a superset
of Bourne/Korn/Posix makes more sense.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt'><br>
If A is a superset of B, then B is a subset of A. I don't see the
implications you apparently see and have no issue with calling the feature set
of Bourne shell as a subset of the feature set of Bash. But that could
just be me.<br>
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-- <br>
Dylan Northrup<br>
"Adversity is just change we haven't adapted ourselves to yet."<br>
- Aimee Mullins<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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