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After years of learning some-other-way to deal with software
installs, it is hard for everyone to understand how easy it really
is doing it with a package manager. We've all been there - done it
the hard way. These days, if something seems hard, I'll ask for
help **first**. As in ... <br>
<br>
"I'm thinking of doing X, does anyone have tips or suggestions
concerning any issues that I may encounter?"<br>
<br>
IMHO, being afraid of the shell makes things much harder than
necessary. Pointing and clicking can't be put into a shell script,
reused next year, across 2,000 systems or accurately shared in an
email. It also requires a video to show someone new to a platform
how to complete a task. Yuck. Pointing and clicking just seems
easier, it isn't really.<br>
<br>
I'll say it again ...<small><b><big> put down the mouse, place your
forefingers on 'f' and 'j', begin computing. </big></b><big>Don't
fear the shell.</big></small><br>
<br>
Here's a challenge to all those who are still pointing and
clicking. For every administrative task this week, try to do it
from the shell instead. Ask for help if you need it, but please read
the man page **first** - some of the man pages do really suck.
Learning how to read a man page takes time and practice, then it
becomes very clear. `apropos` is your friend too.<br>
<br>
On 03/13/2011 08:06 AM, arxaaron wrote:
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<pre wrap="">I love it when people take the most difficult route to
a destination and then blame the people who provided
the map.
peace
aaron
-- Mcrosoft windoze == Mafia$oft Windisease:
-- Cancer for your computer and your freedom.
On 2011/03/11, at 20:11 , Ron Frazier wrote:
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<pre wrap="">I just got LibreOffice installed in Linux. I got it done. But, it
was
much more difficult than it should have been. These are problems the
developers must fix if they want wide acceptance of Linux outside of
the
ubergeeks.
Steps to remove OpenOffice on Windows:
01) Access programs and features menu.
02) Select OpenOffice and click uninstall.
Steps to remove OpenOffice on Linux:
01) Access the software center
02) Select OpenOffice word processor and click remove.
03) Select OpenOffice spreadsheet and click remove.
04) Select OpenOffice database and click remove.
05) Select OpenOffice presentation and click remove.
06) And do the same for 1 or 2 more.
07) Access Synaptic package manager.
08) Search for openoffice.
09) Filter by installed programs only.
10) Manually select each of about a half dozen items and select
complete
removal and apply.
Steps to install LibreOffice on Windows:
01) Download and save the installer.
02) Double click it.
03) Follow the prompts.
Steps to install LibreOffice on Linux:
01) Download and save a main tar ball.
02) Double click on it to extract it.
03) Download and save a help tar ball.
04) Double click on it to extract it.
05) Go find and double click on readme file and read it.
06) Open terminal and manually change to a very long path name
directory
for the main set of files.
07) Change to the DEBS directory.
08) Implement the sudo dpkg command with specific syntax from the
readme
file.
09) Change to the desktop integration directory.
10) Implement the sudo dpkg command again.
11) Change to the help files DEBS directory.
12) Implement the sudo dpkg command again.
Windows wins the least pain in the butt contest with this hands down.
This is utterly ridiculous. If I were to recommend to a family member
or friend that they use Linux and try to explain the procedure to
install an application like this, they'd laugh me right out of the
house
and say they'll just stick with Windows. Now, obviously, I CAN do all
these things, and I DID, and I WILL on my other PC's, but I shouldn't
HAVE to.
Also, this should have been in the Ubuntu repositories, or LibreOffice
should provide a repository of their own. As far as I know, I
completely bypassed the Synaptic / Apt package manager. So, does
anyone
know how I can get Synaptic / Apt to understand that his new
application
is there and auto update it?
Sincerely,
Ron
--
(PS - If you email me and don't get a quick response, you might want
to
call on the phone. I get about 300 emails per day from alternate
energy
mailing lists and such. I don't always see new messages very
quickly.)
Ron Frazier
770-205-9422 (O) Leave a message.
linuxdude AT c3energy.com
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