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Hi Pablo,<br>
<br>
Thanks for the links. I didn't know about that at the time I first
installed LibreOffice on my first machine. This makes it a lot
easier. I think it was Don who provided this link:<br>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.ubuntugeek.com/libreoffice-gets-3-3-0-stable-version-released-ppa-installation-instructions-included.html">http://www.ubuntugeek.com/libreoffice-gets-3-3-0-stable-version-released-ppa-installation-instructions-included.html</a><br>
<br>
The procedures on there are very easy, and it automatically links into
the proper version of Ubuntu. The PPA concept definitely makes things
much easier.<br>
<br>
If there's anyone out there besides me who didn't know what that means,
I found this.<br>
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA">https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA</a><br>
<br>
Quote On ---><br>
<br>
Using a Personal Package Archive (PPA), you can distribute software and
updates directly to Ubuntu users. Create your source package, upload it
and Launchpad will build binaries and then host them in your own apt
repository. <span class="anchor" id="line-8"></span><span
class="anchor" id="line-9"></span>
<p class="line874">That means Ubuntu users can install your packages in
just the same way they install standard Ubuntu packages and they'll
automatically receive updates as and when you make them. <span
class="anchor" id="line-10"></span><span class="anchor" id="line-11"></span></p>
<p class="line874">Every individual and team in Launchpad can have one
or more PPAs, each with its own URL. <span class="anchor" id="line-12"></span><span
class="anchor" id="line-13"></span></p>
Packages you publish in your PPA will remain there until you remove
them, they're superseded by another package that you upload or the
version of Ubuntu against which they're built becomes obsolete. <br>
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<--- Quote Off<br>
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So, I definitely like this methodology much better.<br>
<br>
Sincerely,<br>
<br>
Ron<br>
<br>
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On 03/13/2011 09:23 AM, Pablo Ordonez wrote:
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type="cite">Hi there<br>
<br>
I'm in Ubuntu Maverick<br>
<br>
Here is the ppa for Libre Office
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<div>deb <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://ppa.launchpad.net/libreoffice/ppa/ubuntu">http://ppa.launchpad.net/libreoffice/ppa/ubuntu</a>
maverick main </div>
<div>deb-src <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://ppa.launchpad.net/libreoffice/ppa/ubuntu">http://ppa.launchpad.net/libreoffice/ppa/ubuntu</a>
maverick main </div>
<br>
I was there three weeks after the creation of Libre Office Fundation.<br>
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Advantages:<br>
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Install Libre Office with one click<br>
Uninstall Open Office with the same click<br>
Finally, keeps you with the last version of libre office <br>
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There is a ppa for any need in Ubuntu. :)<br>
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<span class="Apple-style-span"
style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 153);">My Top five list ppa</span><br>
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<b>Wacom tablet out of the box with the last driver.</b><br>
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deb <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://ppa.launchpad.net/doctormo/wacom-plus/ubuntu">http://ppa.launchpad.net/doctormo/wacom-plus/ubuntu</a>
maverick main<br>
deb-src <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://ppa.launchpad.net/doctormo/wacom-plus/ubuntu">http://ppa.launchpad.net/doctormo/wacom-plus/ubuntu</a>
maverick main<br>
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<b>Mplayer last version " Nvidia aceleration":)</b><br>
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deb <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://ppa.launchpad.net/motumedia/mplayer-daily/ubuntu">http://ppa.launchpad.net/motumedia/mplayer-daily/ubuntu</a>
maverick main<br>
deb-src <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://ppa.launchpad.net/motumedia/mplayer-daily/ubuntu">http://ppa.launchpad.net/motumedia/mplayer-daily/ubuntu</a>
maverick main <br>
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<b>GIMP one window :() Less clutter</b><br>
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deb <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://ppa.launchpad.net/matthaeus123/mrw-gimp-svn/ubuntu">http://ppa.launchpad.net/matthaeus123/mrw-gimp-svn/ubuntu</a>
maverick main<br>
deb-src <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://ppa.launchpad.net/matthaeus123/mrw-gimp-svn/ubuntu">http://ppa.launchpad.net/matthaeus123/mrw-gimp-svn/ubuntu</a>
maverick main
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<b>Synapse a quick launcher that works with zeitgeist engine</b><b> </b></div>
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deb <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://ppa.launchpad.net/synapse-core/ppa/ubuntu">http://ppa.launchpad.net/synapse-core/ppa/ubuntu</a>
maverick main<br>
deb-src <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://ppa.launchpad.net/synapse-core/ppa/ubuntu">http://ppa.launchpad.net/synapse-core/ppa/ubuntu</a>
maverick main<br>
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<b>My favorite browser</b></div>
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<div>deb <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://ppa.launchpad.net/chromium-daily/ppa/ubuntu">http://ppa.launchpad.net/chromium-daily/ppa/ubuntu</a>
maverick main </div>
<div>deb-src <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://ppa.launchpad.net/chromium-daily/ppa/ubuntu">http://ppa.launchpad.net/chromium-daily/ppa/ubuntu</a>
maverick main</div>
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Even though you become a tester with some of them, these releases are
pretty stable in my experience.</div>
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<div>Enjoy</div>
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On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 10:18 PM, Ron Frazier <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:atllinuxenthinfo@c3energy.com">atllinuxenthinfo@c3energy.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
><br>
> Hi Don,<br>
><br>
> See replies in line.<br>
><br>
> On 03/11/2011 09:31 PM, Don Lachlan wrote:<br>
> > On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 8:11 PM, Ron Frazier<br>
> > <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:atllinuxenthinfo@c3energy.com">atllinuxenthinfo@c3energy.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> >> Steps to remove OpenOffice on Linux:<br>
> >> 01) Access the software center<br>
> >> 02) Select OpenOffice word processor and click remove.<br>
> >> 03) Select OpenOffice spreadsheet and click remove.<br>
> >> 04) Select OpenOffice database and click remove.<br>
> >> 05) Select OpenOffice presentation and click remove.<br>
> >> 06) And do the same for 1 or 2 more.<br>
> >> 07) Access Synaptic package manager.<br>
> >> 08) Search for openoffice.<br>
> >> 09) Filter by installed programs only.<br>
> >> 10) Manually select each of about a half dozen items and
select complete<br>
> >> removal and apply.<br>
> >><br>
> > What are steps 1-6 for? AFAIK, you only need to remove the
package in<br>
> > 7-10. Also, I don't think that steps 7-10 are cumbersome,
especially<br>
> > since it is a single interface to search/install/uninstall,
compared<br>
> > to three different UI on Windows. In your Windows checklist,
you<br>
> ><br>
><br>
> I went to the software center in hopes that I could remove just one<br>
> thing the way I did in the Windows control panel. I found 5 or 6<br>
> things, and proceeded to remove them. I was hoping I was done,
but went<br>
> to Synaptic to find out. I found still more openoffice entries,
and<br>
> removed them. Searching for openoffice in Synaptic initially led
to a<br>
> large number of search results, and it would have been difficult to<br>
> highlight them all and select them for removal. Also, it's
difficult to<br>
> know if they should be removed, depending on how they are titled.<br>
><br>
> > skipped two install steps:<br>
> ><br>
> > pre-01a) Search internet for software package<br>
> > pre-01b) Navigate to download page.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
><br>
> True, but the same two items were required to do the Linux
procedure.<br>
><br>
> > Larger projects are usually easy to find and navigate, but
lots of them are not.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> >> Steps to install LibreOffice on Linux:<br>
> >><br>
> > Well, that is a cumbersome process. However, when I searched
for<br>
> > "libreoffice install", the first result was for a method to
install<br>
> > via APT (synaptic):<br>
> ><br>
> > <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.ubuntugeek.com/libreoffice-gets-3-3-0-stable-version-released-ppa-installation-instructions-included.html">http://www.ubuntugeek.com/libreoffice-gets-3-3-0-stable-version-released-ppa-installation-instructions-included.html</a><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
><br>
> I wish I had known this at first. I just went to <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://libreoffice.org">libreoffice.org</a>
and<br>
> went to their download page and followed their instructions.
There was<br>
> no mention of this process whatsoever. I didn't see any need to
search<br>
> outside of the project's own site.<br>
><br>
> >> Also, this should have been in the Ubuntu repositories,
or LibreOffice<br>
> >> should provide a repository of their own. As far as I
know, I<br>
> >> completely bypassed the Synaptic / Apt package manager.
So, does anyone<br>
> >> know how I can get Synaptic / Apt to understand that his
new application<br>
> >> is there and auto update it?<br>
> >><br>
> > There does appear to be a community Ubuntu repo for
LibreOffice.<br>
> > Because of the popularity, it will probably be in the main
Ubuntu<br>
> > 11.04 repo, when that is released.<br>
> ><br>
> > LibreOffice may not offer a repository, but it did package it
for<br>
> > Ubuntu. From personal experience, packaging software for a
dozen<br>
> > different Linux distributions (and each of their supported
versions)<br>
> > is a MASSIVE task. If you're also expecting them to maintain
an APT<br>
> > repository for Ubuntu (and a different repo for RHEL and SLES
and<br>
> > Debian, etc.), I think that's an unfair expectation.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
><br>
> I don't really understand the difference between a repository and a<br>
> package. However, I don't think point and click and go installs
for the<br>
> top 5 Linux systems, with integration to that system's package
manager,<br>
> is too much to ask.<br>
><br>
> > Synaptic is just a front-end to APT, which is just an
interface for<br>
> > dpkg; if you installed packages via dpkg, then Synaptic will
see them.<br>
> > To upgrade the packages, Synaptic needs to access to a
repository that<br>
> > has new packages - the link above will tell you how to add
that.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> I did use dpkg, as described in the installation instructions.
However,<br>
> I can find no evidence that LibreOffice is installed on my system,<br>
> either in Synaptic, nor in Software Center. I even tried the
first two<br>
> commands in the link you sent, to add the PPA and update the
database.<br>
> Still nothing. At this point, I'd like to get rid of the original<br>
> install, if possible. and reinstall using the procedure you
linked to.<br>
> I don't know how to do that. I could just activate the new
procedure<br>
> using APT, but then I might have two duplicate, possibly
conflicting<br>
> installs of LibreOffice. Help!?<br>
> > I think part of the issue here is one of expectations. Most
GNU/Linux<br>
> > users install software in two ways: via their distribution's
package<br>
> > manager and via tarball. Young projects often rely on
tarballs but<br>
> > they get picked up by distributions as they mature. Right
now, it's<br>
> > new.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> I don't have a big problem with tarballs, kind of like a zip file.<br>
> However, I think I should be able to extract it, click on the
result,<br>
> and the application should install and hook into the package
manager for<br>
> auto updates and easy uninstalls.<br>
> > Also, we could code a menu option for "uninstall" for each
package, or<br>
> > we could tell users "Go to your distribution's package
manager and<br>
> > remove it there". The second option saves developer time and
maintains<br>
> > a consistent UI for the user.<br>
> ><br>
> > -Lachlan<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> As I mentioned above, it's very hard to install or uninstall
something<br>
> like LibreOffice or Java, for example, from Synaptic. Doing a
search<br>
> will yield many lines and you don't know what to select. Now, I<br>
> wouldn't want to get rid of Synaptic, since it is very useful.
However,<br>
> for something like this, I just want to go to software center,
acquaint<br>
> it with a provider's website, if needed, click LibreOffice, and
click<br>
> install, and have it all work. If I want to uninstall it, I just
want<br>
> to click that one app name, and click uninstall.<br>
><br>
> Sincerely,<br>
><br>
> Ron<br>
><br>
> --<br>
><br>
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> call on the phone. I get about 300 emails per day from alternate
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><br>
> Ron Frazier<br>
><br>
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