plan on replacing _all_ of the electrolytic caps. It's likely they all came from the same place.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Richard Faulkner <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rfaulkner@34thprs.org">rfaulkner@34thprs.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Bad capacitors on mobos have been a recurring problem (just ask Dell!) : )<br>
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May the force be with you and may your hand be smooth in replacing them bad boys! <br>
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<b>From</b>: Charles Shapiro <<a href="mailto:Charles%20Shapiro%20%3chooterpincher@gmail.com%3e" target="_blank">hooterpincher@gmail.com</a>><br>
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<b>Subject</b>: Re: [ale] OT - hardware problem<br>
</div><div><div></div><div class="h5"><b>Date</b>: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 17:01:41 -0400<br>
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<pre>Ouch. Had that ( <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague</a> )
happen to one of my machines in 2004 or so. I chucked the MB and
bought a new one.
-- CHS
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 4:48 PM, Joe Knapka <<a href="mailto:jknapka@kneuro.net" target="_blank">jknapka@kneuro.net</a>> wrote:
> I'm pretty sure it's not the fan, because when I did get the machine
> to boot into the BIOS, the BIOS status screen reported fan speeds in
> the 3000-4000 RPM range.
>
> I'll definitely look into the capacitor problem, though. My soldering
> skills are only fair, but this might be a good opportunity for a
> Learning Experience :-) I don't know exactly when the board was
> manufactured, but it's a BioStar 6100-M9 Socket 939.
>
> Woah. It's capacitors. Two of the big 3300uF ones right by the CPU
> socket are cracked like eggs. Gotta find that soldering iron and the
> desolder .
>
> -- JK
>
> On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Calvin Harrigan
> <<a href="mailto:charriglists@bellsouth.net" target="_blank">charriglists@bellsouth.net</a>> wrote:
>> Could it be the fan? It might be spinning, but not sending any feedback
>> to the MB and the MB thinks the fan is kaput. This feature is usually
>> only available on higher end boards though. Most usually depend on
>> temperature. Just an idea. What year was the board manufactured?
>> Could you be suffering from bad capacitors? Most if not all
>> motherboards have a low voltage high current powersupply for the
>> CPU,Memory on board, the capacitors there could be at fault. Look for
>> capacitors whose tops seem puffy or have stains, leaks, etc. Most are
>> relatively easy to replace if you have any experience with a soldering iron.
>>
>>
>> On 10/11/2010 1:13 PM, Joe Knapka wrote:
>>> I've already replaced the PS with a new-in-box one, with no change in
>>> behavior. So I don't think that's it.
>>>
>>> It's a socket 939 mobo; those seem to be hard to get these days. Looks
>>> like at least mobo and CPU, and probably RAM, will need to be
>>> replaced.
>>>
>>> Bleh.
>>>
>>> -- JK
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Scott Castaline<<a href="mailto:skotchman@gmail.com" target="_blank">skotchman@gmail.com</a>> wrote:
>>>> On 10/11/2010 10:43 AM, Joe Knapka wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Jim Kinney<<a href="mailto:jim.kinney@gmail.com" target="_blank">jim.kinney@gmail.com</a>> wrote:
>>>>>> true. easy test for that is to boot to the bios and leave it alone. There's
>>>>>> no throttling in the bios for cpu speed AND you can run the temp page and
>>>>>> watch for issues there.
>>>>>
>>>>> I was going to try this, but this morning the machine won't turn on at
>>>>> all. That is, press power button, fans spin up for about 1 second,
>>>>> then immediately everything turns off. Pulled the power switch off
>>>>> the mobo and used a screwdriver between the pins to power up, and got
>>>>> the same behavior. Pulled the RAM, same behavior. Wish I had an
>>>>> alternate CPU to test. Anyway I guess swapping out the mobo is the
>>>>> next move.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks all,
>>>>>
>>>>> -- JK
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>>>> If memory serves me correctly, you need a resistive load across the
>>>> voltage outputs, otherwise the PSU will behave like that. They do make
>>>> test plugs or at least used to for PSUs that provide the load needed to
>>>> turn on. If it does the same thing with the plug then it's the PSU. Also
>>>> I think that HDDs do provide enough load to trigger the PSU to stay on.
>>>> Did you have any hdds, optical drives still plugged in? It's possible
>>>> that one of them is dragging down the PSU.
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