And don't forget places like ServerBeach and RackSpace. <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Chris Fowler <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cfowler@outpostsentinel.com">cfowler@outpostsentinel.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div class="im">On Mon, 2010-09-20 at 15:11 -0400, Michael B. Trausch wrote:<br>
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</div><div class="im">> I'm wondering, at what point does it become more worth it to just put<br>
> my<br>
> own real systems in a data center and manage them myself? I don't<br>
> mind<br>
> managing things myself; my plans would essentially be to have a big<br>
> friggin' storage unit and then run multiple systems off of it. I<br>
> realize that I would be spending a bit more in terms of the hardware,<br>
> and that doesn't really bother me either. My real question is to<br>
> someone that has done all this already, should I be doing it yet? Or<br>
> should I wait until I'm paying more than I am now? And why does it<br>
> seem<br>
> that all the data centers are very hush-hush about what they charge?<br>
> I<br>
> can't seem to find rates for the life of me.<br>
><br>
><br>
<br>
</div>When you are ready to spend about $500/mon for a half-rack then you are<br>
ready to go colo.<br>
<br>
Look at what you are brining in (sales) and then look at the costs<br>
involved. Data centers are very hush-hush because this is not DSL like<br>
pricing. The colo service is negotiable. The best thing to do is get a<br>
survey of what people on ALE pay and use that as a guide to what you'll<br>
end up paying. If you don't have this info you'll end up paying "list"<br>
and the sales rep will make a good commission.<br>
<br>
You can also look at sub-leasing space from people in a colo. We<br>
started doing this but were burned twice! We got a much better rate and<br>
shorter commitment from our vendor then we were going to get with QTS.<br>
However, our vendor sold their service at QTS to a company that sucked.<br>
That company moved to Peak 10 and later failed. We negotiated a rate<br>
with Peak 10 that was very close to what we were paying and stayed in<br>
their data center. It is much better for us and the service from Peak<br>
10 is above excellent.<br>
<br>
Peak 10 is more about colo. As Greg said, you should probably look at 1U<br>
rental. Peak 10 may even offer it. I know this "data center" in Buford<br>
offer 1U or even a shelf to put a tower on but I would not classify them<br>
as a "data center". I think they were $75-$100/mon for that service.<br>
<br>
Good luck and congratulations on your growth!<br>
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Chris<br>
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