<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Jim Lynch <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ale_nospam@fayettedigital.com">ale_nospam@fayettedigital.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="im">On 09/09/2010 01:51 PM, Brian Pitts wrote:<br>
> On 09/09/2010 01:11 PM, Jim Lynch wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Not even that. Ubuntu 10.04 doesn't display video out of the box<br>
>> without installing codecs that a novice user would have no idea about.<br>
>> No reasonable documentation either.<br>
>><br>
> If you tried to play a video that there are codecs packaged for in<br>
> Ubuntu, and you weren't automatically prompted to install the codes when<br>
> you opened the video in Totem (GNOME's movie player), please file a bug. [0]<br>
><br>
</div>In one case, it did prompt me to install the codec but it didn't work,<br>
it's been too long since so I can't recall the details. It either<br>
couldn't find the codec, failed to install for some reason or even after<br>
the codec was installed, it still didn't work. I<br>
<div class="im">> If you don't think the documentation available through the Help entry<br>
> under the System menu (or online [1]) isn't good enough, you can file a<br>
> bug about that too [2] (or even join the documentation team [3] if<br>
> you're ambitious).<br>
><br>
</div>A novice user can't even define codec, much less know to look in the<br>
docs for the answers, especially when his experience with the "other"<br>
system didn't require anything special, it just worked.<br>
<br>
Don't get me wrong, I've been running Linux since 0.12 kernel in '91 and<br>
am 100% behind it. I've been working on computers since the mid '60s<br>
and if I get frustrated sometimes, think what a first time user of Linux<br>
might think. A year ago I thought Linux was ready for the desktop, but<br>
since then I've attempted Kubuntu, Ubuntu and Centos desktop</blockquote><div><br>ouch! RedHat/Centos on the desktop is a kludge even with EPEL repo. Fedora on the desktop actually works. Add the rpmfusion free and non-free repos and lastly add the libdvdcss from livna (the only file hosted there - it allows playing encrypted commercial DVDs)<br>
</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> installs<br>
where things just didn't work well. In some cases I was able to work<br>
around or fix the problem, in the case of Kubuntu, I filed a bug which<br>
is still being looked at an prevents me from logging in with no workaround.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> I know it can be annoying to hear someone say "it should work, file a<br>
> bug", but if the technical users take a few minutes to do this then the<br>
> experience should get better for the novice users.<br>
><br>
</div>I'm somewhat guilty of that, it's true.<br>
<div class="im">> [0] <a href="https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-codec-install" target="_blank">https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-codec-install</a><br>
> [1] <a href="https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/musicvideophotos/C/video-playback.html" target="_blank">https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/musicvideophotos/C/video-playback.html</a><br>
> [2] <a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-docs/" target="_blank">https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-docs/</a><br>
> [3] <a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam" target="_blank">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam</a><br>
><br>
><br>
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