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    Actually, i686 is Pentium Pro on through the latest, greatest 32-bit
    Xeons.&nbsp; <br>
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    On 7/9/10 10:23 AM, Lightner, Jeff wrote:
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                    size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
                      Arial; color: navy;">i686 is NOT itanium&nbsp; - it is
                      later Pentium
                      (Xeon) chips but is still 32 bit.&nbsp;&nbsp; i386 is the
                      earlier 32 bit chips.&nbsp;&nbsp; It isn&#8217;t
                      unusual on some systems to see both i386 and i686
                      packages (and if it is a 64
                      bit non-Itanium you can have those AND x86_64).&nbsp;&nbsp;
                      ia64 = Itanium<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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                        <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org">ale-bounces@ale.org</a> [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org">mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org</a>]
                        <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of
                          </span></b>Jim Kinney<br>
                        <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b>
                        Friday, July 09, 2010 10:01
                        AM<br>
                        <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b>
                        <st1:personname w:st="on">Atlanta Linux
                          Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!</st1:personname><br>
                        <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b>
                        Re: [ale] Trying to
                        Install a Realtek NIC Driver on Fedora 13</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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                      style="font-size: 12pt;">In Fedora-land, there is
                      no longer an i386 build. It starts at i686 now. It
                      is _called_ i386 but the
                      build arch is i686.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman"
                      size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">On Fri,
                        Jul 9, 2010 at 9:39 AM, Greg Clifton &lt;<a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:gccfof5@gmail.com">gccfof5@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                        wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman"
                      size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Correct me
                        if I am wrong, but isn't the i686 the Itanic (I
                        mean
                        Itanium) CPU? Shouldn't you be using an i386
                        build?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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                          style="font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(136, 136,
                          136);">GC</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                12pt;">On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 9:08 AM,
                                Marc Ferguson &lt;<a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="mailto:marcferguson@gmail.com"
                                  target="_blank">marcferguson@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                                wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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                                      style="font-size: 12pt;">On Thu,
                                      Jul 8, 2010 at 12:24 AM, Brian
                                      Pitts &lt;<a
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                                        href="mailto:brian@polibyte.com"
                                        target="_blank">brian@polibyte.com</a>&gt;
                                      wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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                                        style="font-size: 12pt;">On
                                        07/07/2010 11:02 PM,
                                        Marc Ferguson wrote:<br>
                                        &gt; I have an odd question.
                                        Since you guys were able to
                                        build the file<br>
                                        &gt; without any issues can you
                                        simply attach it to this thread?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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                                      style="font-size: 12pt;">No, I
                                      don't think ALE is
                                      attachment-friendly, but I'm okay
                                      with taking<br>
                                      this off-list and helping you out.<br>
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                                          --</span></font><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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                                        style="font-size: 12pt;">All the
                                        best,<br>
                                        Brian Pitts<br>
_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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                                12pt;">Thanks for the file Brian. I
                                tried to work on getting my NIC
                                installed,
                                but I was unsuccessful. Neat thing is I
                                end up learning new things. I booted
                                Fedora13 i686 using a USB key and copied
                                that .ko file onto the desktop. I then
                                moved it into the "modules" folder
                                (something along the lines of
                                /lib/modules/kernel_version/net, it's
                                not written in stone). Based on the
                                instructions from this blog post [1], I
                                tried, but was thoroughly confused by
                                the end of the night. :)<br>
                                <br>
                                I noticed that there isn't a
                                /etc/modules.conf file. So; I created
                                one. I'm
                                wondering if I should go ahead and
                                install Fedora 13 i686 and go from
                                there.
                                I'm concerned about NOT having internet
                                access during installation - if that
                                affects the final build of the machine?&nbsp;
                                I noticed that none of the
                                changes I do stick (after reboot), so
                                maybe I'm wasting my time by trying to
                                get the NIC to work on Live?<br>
                                <br>
                                Well; I ended up moving the r8168.ko
                                file into a "realtek" folder
                                under /lib/modules/kernel_version/net,
                                but I couldn't successfully modprobe it.
                                I did learn that my NIC device wasn't
                                loaded. When I did a ifconfig only
                                "lo" was shown. So; now I need to figure
                                out how to load my NIC
                                device manually!<br>
                                <br>
                                Amazing. I think if I buy a new
                                motherboard (or get a PCI LAN), I can
                                bypass
                                this pain... ah I mean learning. I would
                                kill for an RPM right now!<br>
                                <br>
                                [1] -- <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2005/01/how-to-install-network-card-in-linux.html"
                                  target="_blank">http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2005/01/how-to-install-network-card-in-linux.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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                                    -- <br>
                                    Marc Ferguson<br>
                                    <br>
                                    Registered Linux User #410978<br>
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                                    <br>
                                    "When life gives me lemons... I make
                                    Linuxaide, hmm good stuff!"<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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                      -- <br>
                      -- <br>
                      James P. Kinney III<br>
                      Actively in pursuit of Life, <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place
                          w:st="on">Liberty</st1:place></st1:city>
                      and Happiness <br>
                      Doing pretty well on all 3 pursuits &nbsp; &nbsp;<br>
                      <br>
                      &nbsp;Faith is a cop-out. If the only way you can
                      accept an assertion is by
                      faith, then you are conceding that it can&#8217;t be
                      taken on its own merits.<br>
                      &nbsp; &nbsp;Dan Barker, "Losing Faith in Faith", 1992 <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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