<font color="#993300"><font size="2"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Ok, thanks, everybody, for all the input. Good discussion. Thanks for the education.<br><br clear="all"></font></font></font>-- Asher <br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 3:17 PM, scott boss <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:scott@sboss.net">scott@sboss.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
It also might be a control of the firmware/drivers so we can make sure<br>
they are good. In the past (late 90s/early 00s) I had problems<br>
downloading drivers/firmware from third parties. Either outdated/bad<br>
or additional software was injected into the packages. Of course the<br>
vendor is the one that takes the blunt of the anger. So I understand<br>
why they do what they do. Like it or not I understand.<br>
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Sent from my mobile...<br>
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On Jun 22, 2010, at 12:19 PM, Richard Bronosky <Richard@Bronosky.com> wrote:<br>
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> This is true. What you have is a chicken/egg problem introduced by bad<br>
> licensing and freedom hating, short sighted business decisions.<br>
><br>
> On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Brian Pitts <<a href="mailto:brian@polibyte.com">brian@polibyte.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> On 06/21/2010 02:02 PM, Asher Vilensky wrote:<br>
>>> The problem is not you and I. The problem is that you can't "sell"<br>
>>> Linux (pick any flavor and version) to the mass until these things work<br>
>>> out of the box. I want to convert those around me - basically so I<br>
>>> don't have to keep install virus protection etc. But I'm hesitant in<br>
>>> doing so. I don't want to either have to educate people too much or<br>
>>> stand there embarrassed when things don't work. I hate Windows like<br>
>>> the rest of this group, but I also recognize that Linux is not a viable<br>
>>> substitute for most users. Not yet. I would recommend Mac (to somebody<br>
>>> like my in-laws) before I suggest Linux.<br>
>>><br>
>><br>
>> If you are plugged in to a wired network, Ubuntu should launch the<br>
>> restricted driver manager (you can launch it manually from System -><br>
>> Administration -> Hardware Drivers) and offer to download the broadcom<br>
>> firmware for you.<br>
>><br>
>> I doubt that if you installed any version of Windows the wireless would<br>
>> have worked either, but I have not tried so I can't swear. I believe the<br>
>> problem is that Broadcom does not allow anyone else to redistribute the<br>
>> firmware that their cards need to work.<br>
>><br>
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>> All the best,<br>
>> Brian Pitts<br>
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