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Jeff,<BR>
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I get the message. Mine was not as light-hearted. Mea culpa. <BR>
I am spending way too much time studying what passes as evidence or definition of terrorismists. <BR>
I have just finished a gem of an article that boils down to "even if there is never an example of <BR>
cyberterorism does not mean it is not a real and present threat." <BR>
A better proof of the existence of the tooth fairy, I have never seen!<BR>
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Do what you want with your words. The trick, IMO, is not just one of resisting one's own vocabulary <BR>
being subverted by W and neocons, or by P&G or Nike, <BR>
but finding and setting our own linguistic frameworks, <BR>
which is a singular failing of the progressives. <BR>
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-Wolf<BR>
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PS IMO, the Reps and Dems are basically on the same side, like the professional <BR>
wrestlers in the ring are basically providing entertainment for us, the politicians are basically <BR>
providing entertainment to keep us from paying attention to the real issues.<BR>
<BR>
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<B>From</B>: Lightner, Jeff <<A HREF="mailto:%22Lightner,%20Jeff%22%20%3cjlightner@water.com%3e">jlightner@water.com</A>><BR>
<B>Reply-to</B>: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux! <ale@ale.org><BR>
<B>To</B>: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux! <<A HREF="mailto:Atlanta%20Linux%20Enthusiasts%20-%20Yes!%20We%20run%20Linux!%20%3cale@ale.org%3e">ale@ale.org</A>><BR>
<B>Subject</B>: Re: [ale] BP knew of problems 11 months before the rig blew -further OT<BR>
<B>Date</B>: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 07:46:59 -0400<BR>
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<FONT SIZE="2"><FONT COLOR="#000080">My post was meant to be tongue in cheek.</FONT></FONT><BR>
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<FONT SIZE="2"><FONT COLOR="#000080">The word “terrorist” was around long before W and his cronies co-opted it for “the war on terror” and as with all other forms of political correctness I won’t allow my choice of words to be dictated by those that would like to ascribe general terms to specific ideology. </FONT></FONT><BR>
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<FONT SIZE="2"><FONT COLOR="#000080">Clearly when I said “eco-terrorist” I was NOT using “terrorist” the same way as those who believe only acts carried out by Al-Qaeda and its affiliates are terrorism. What I said had a clear context and if you’d prefer to pretend your interpretation of it outside the context is meaningful then feel free to do so. However, don’t expect me to lend credence to the “we’re offended by what you might have meant rather than what you said” world view.</FONT></FONT><BR>
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<B><FONT SIZE="2">From:</FONT></B><FONT SIZE="2">ale-bounces@ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org] </FONT><B><FONT SIZE="2">On Behalf Of </FONT></B><FONT SIZE="2">wolf@wolfhalton.info</FONT><BR>
<B><FONT SIZE="2">Sent:</FONT></B><FONT SIZE="2"> Wednesday, June 02, 2010 7:03 PM</FONT><BR>
<B><FONT SIZE="2">To:</FONT></B><FONT SIZE="2"> Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!</FONT><BR>
<B><FONT SIZE="2">Subject:</FONT></B><FONT SIZE="2"> Re: [ale] BP knew of problems 11 months before the rig blew -further OT</FONT><BR>
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@Jeff - Can we let go of the "xx-terrorist" terminology? Unless, of course you can find a definition that is held by more than three people at a time, it is a religious-war term for persons we don't agree with, and adds nothing to the conversation. It is the linguistic framing that makes the neo-con forever-war concept seem sane to some people. <BR>
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Extreme in my moderation, <BR>
Wolf<BR>
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-----Original Message-----<BR>
<B>From</B>: Lightner, Jeff <<A HREF="mailto:%22Lightner,%20Jeff%22%20%3cjlightner@water.com%3e">jlightner@water.com</A>><BR>
<B>Reply-to</B>: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux! <ale@ale.org><BR>
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<B>Subject</B>: Re: [ale] BP knew of problems 11 months before the rig blew -further OT<BR>
<B>Date</B>: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 15:05:06 -0400<BR>
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<FONT SIZE="2">The cynic in me at the time of the explosion made me wonder if some</FONT>
<FONT SIZE="2">eco-terrorist hadn't somehow caused it in reaction to the then recent</FONT>
<FONT SIZE="2">announcement of expanded offshore drilling by President Obama.</FONT>
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