It only takes attention off our real problem when we demonize those who perpetrated this mess. The real problem is the production and consumption and waste in which we all participate. If it were not for our ravenous appetites the use of natural resources could proceed at a safer pace. It further distracts when we exaggerate the facts. No, the mess of the Deepwater Horizon disaster is not another Chernobyl.<br>
<br>I read Ra Expeditions about 35 years ago, so I don't remember every detail, but Thor Heyerdahl sailed a small craft in the Pacific and say balls of oil waste in the ocean. We didn't listen to him then and we're not going to change now. Here's the closest quote I could find fromo that book on Google Books: "We must make an outcry about this to evryone who would listen. What was the good of East and West fighting over social reforms on land, as long as every nation allowed our common artery, the ocean, to become a sewer for oil slush and chemical waste?"<br>
<br>This not to say that I hold harmless the BP execs or our own greedy executive branch, but our denial is no more plausible than theirs.<br><br>guilty<br>...John<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 8:47 PM, m-aaron-r <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:aaron@pd.org" target="_blank">aaron@pd.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>On 2010/05/30, at 12:49 , Jim Kinney wrote:<br>
> I think the Chernobyl moniker is certainly more correct than Katrina.<br>
> _WE_ made this mess not nature.<br>
<br>
</div>Correction: The BP corporapists and their sub contractors made this<br>
mess.<br>
<br>
And as was noted in the video you forwarded, the circumstances of<br>
this mess are nearly identical to those of a very similar offshore<br>
oil drilling mess these same companies caused in the Gulf of Mexico<br>
from thirty years ago.<br>
<br>
The mess has happened because fascist whores in our government,<br>
specifically Dick Cheney and his Bush regime puppets, allowed their<br>
"buddies" in the oil corps. to circumvent the subsequently required<br>
safety precautions put in place by responsible government<br>
representatives to protect the citizens and our commonwealth<br>
resources from a repeat of the greed driven incompetence and<br>
corporate planet rape that happened in the Gulf in 1979.<br>
<br>
The mess happened because Dick Cheney sold out America<br>
to corporapist blood sucking leeches in closed door meetings<br>
that were denied any and all public scrutiny in order to establish<br>
the wholesale and criminal whoring of our national resources<br>
to the private, elitist, tax free profiteering of his closest business<br>
associates and pawn it off as the "National" Energy Policy.<br>
<br>
Fascists (in the textbook definition) every one of them.<br>
<br>
peace<br>
<font color="#888888">aaron<br>
</font><div><div></div><div><br>
><br>
> We have some really bright people that seem to be forced to the<br>
> backseat when decisions are made. Accounting has it's place<br>
> and that is not the drivers seat. The big question I keep asking,<br>
> with no responses from anywhere, is how do we transition from<br>
> where we are now to a more meritocracy processes?<br>
><br>
> On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Jim Philips <<a href="mailto:briarpatch.jim@gmail.com" target="_blank">briarpatch.jim@gmail.com</a><br>
> > wrote:<br>
> Our faith in our own know-how is certainly taking a beating in this<br>
> episode.<br>
> We know how to unleash forces that we don't know how to control (and<br>
> destroy<br>
> a lot of things we don't know how to replace). People keep comparing<br>
> this to Katrina.<br>
> But I think it's more like Chernobyl. We are likely to have a long-<br>
> term dead zone<br>
> in the Gulf of Mexico.<br>
><br>
> On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Jim Kinney <<a href="mailto:jim.kinney@gmail.com" target="_blank">jim.kinney@gmail.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
> <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/30/us/30rig.html" target="_blank">http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/30/us/30rig.html</a>?<br>
><br>
> Time to start pumping the well head full of execs yet?<br>
><br>
> Does anyone know of a single component compound that reacts with mixed<br>
> organics to make a solid? Drilling mud is a lubricant. They need to<br>
> pump in<br>
> a fast-setting glue. However, since the article talks about the<br>
> screw ups in the<br>
> valve and the cement well casing I'm concerned that with the well<br>
> pressure<br>
> a plugged head will only force a leak (or blowout) near the head in<br>
> the sea<br>
> floor. The cement casing is supposed to act as a reinforcement but<br>
> there are<br>
> reports that the material used was substandard (thanks Haliburton!)<br>
> and<br>
> poorly installed.<br>
><br>
> Maybe since the riser pipe is still attached to the head they can beat<br>
> on it with the "top cap" box and crimp it down to cut the flow. Who<br>
> knows.<br>
> Maybe a slow crimping cutoff of the flow will not shock the casing<br>
> and allow<br>
> a temporary blockage with the sub-floor fracturing of the crappy<br>
> casing<br>
> they are worried about.<br>
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