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</div><br><br></snark><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 2:08 PM, Tom Freeman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tfreeman@intel.digichem.net">tfreeman@intel.digichem.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">I'm doing this off the top of my head, so expect errors.<br>
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Re: using a nuke. Couple of objections here.<br>
<br>
Lets start with the easiest to take care of - BP is a corporation and<br>
doesn't (well isn't supposed to at least) have access to nukes. And<br>
last time I heard, BP is still in charge of the cleanup/stop leaking<br>
operations.<br>
<br>
I think, there may well be treaty obligations for the US also, which<br>
I suspect pretty much rule out even a small nuke.<br>
<br>
Back in the 60's and early '70's there was a government run program to<br>
harness small nuclear explosions to engineering (civil) problems. I was<br>
a tad bit young then, but if memory serves Project Ploughshare was<br>
pretty much a bust from the get go, and that was all land based work.<br>
Of the publically acknowledged shots, none of them in my memory<br>
produced anything like what the engineers expected, although they did<br>
frequently manage to more millions of tons of material around. I don't<br>
remember any marine experiments, which would just complicate the<br>
issure.<br>
<br>
Finally, I'm not sure that an explosion of any sort would be effective<br>
in the first place. Since the petroleum appears to be under a modest<br>
abount of pressure, and the fluid is fairly viscous also, any explosion<br>
of sufficient power to fracture enough rock is going to suspend that<br>
rock into the upwelling current. Looks to me like a recipe for making a<br>
large hole in the bottom of the ocean from a small hole. (And that<br>
doesn't address the unknown probability of getting enough small stuff<br>
to actually plug the hole from an explosive device. Maybe if you<br>
managed to get the explosives to the bottom of the bore??)<br>
<br>
I like things that go "boom" pretty much as well as anyone, but I<br>
honestly don't see explosives working to close off the hole. YMMV of<br>
course.<br>
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On 05/30/2010 01:22:30 PM, Damon L. Chesser wrote:<br>
> For crying out loud. Use a very large HE explosive or a very small<br>
> tatical nuke. Hole sealed, oil in the area neutralized.<br>
><br>
> Of course we can't use a nuke, after all nukes are BAD. NOT.<br>
><br>
> The problem that I see is that politically/socially/enviroly, nukes<br>
> are<br>
> not an option. Don't know why a large (very large) explosive would<br>
> not<br>
> work. If you nuke it, you can't use that well (opening) any more and<br>
> if<br>
> you want THAT oil, you would have to diagonally drill off from about<br>
> 2<br>
> miles distance. So, we would have a 1 mile patch of glowing ocean 1<br>
> mile deep. I don't see a problem with that, but I am insensitive,<br>
> and<br>
> perhaps (admittedly) not fully informed on the repercussions.<br>
><br>
> On Sun, 2010-05-30 at 10:13 -0400, Jim Kinney wrote:<br>
> > <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/30/us/30rig.html" target="_blank">http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/30/us/30rig.html</a>?<br>
> ><br>
> > Time to start pumping the well head full of execs yet?<br>
> ><br>
> > Does anyone know of a single component compound that reacts with<br>
> mixed<br>
> > organics to make a solid? Drilling mud is a lubricant. They need to<br>
> > pump in a fast-setting glue. However, since the article talks about<br>
> > the screw ups in the valve and the cement well casing I'm concerned<br>
> > that with the well pressure a plugged head will only force a leak<br>
> (or<br>
> > blowout) near the head in the sea floor. The cement casing is<br>
> supposed<br>
> > to act as a reinforcement but there are reports that the material<br>
> used<br>
> > was substandard (thanks Haliburton!) and poorly installed.<br>
> ><br>
> > Maybe since the riser pipe is still attached to the head they can<br>
> beat<br>
> > on it with the "top cap" box and crimp it down to cut the flow. Who<br>
> > knows. Maybe a slow crimping cutoff of the flow will not shock the<br>
> > casing and allow a temporary blockage with the sub-floor fracturing<br>
> of<br>
> > the crappy casing they are worried about.<br>
> ><br>
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