true. So hack startx to be a startKDM command :-) This will also require the logout to be aliased to a stopKDM as well.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 11:53 PM, Charles Shapiro <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hooterpincher@gmail.com">hooterpincher@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Yeah, I thought about that. But that means I have to make a choice on<br>
the keyboard every time it boots. You can see why that might not be<br>
much fun.<br>
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-- CHS<br>
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On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 6:01 PM, Jim Kinney <<a href="mailto:jim.kinney@gmail.com">jim.kinney@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> hack the init to add a runlevel choice with a keystroke or do it with a grub<br>
> line<br>
><br>
> On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 5:55 PM, Charles Shapiro <<a href="mailto:hooterpincher@gmail.com">hooterpincher@gmail.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Hmm. That's really irritating. Sometimes I just want to bring my<br>
>> machine up quickly to, like, rip a CD or copy something to an SD card.<br>
>> I don't want to wait around for the full ceremonial X Windows<br>
>> initialization for stuff like that.<br>
>><br>
>> -- CHS<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 5:39 PM, Jim Kinney <<a href="mailto:jim.kinney@gmail.com">jim.kinney@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> > dolphin must be the connector to DBUS for KDE.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > There is a growing dependency on <foo>DM stuff with the current<br>
>> > environments. Lots of _stuff_ gets started or is accessible only through<br>
>> > them. NetworkManager is flaky without GDM starting things. So there must<br>
>> > be<br>
>> > a pile of env stuff causing pain.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Next-gen SELinux has support for X environment. By starting with<br>
>> > <foo>DM,<br>
>> > SELinux will have a firmer grasp on the startup process. I wonder if<br>
>> > this is<br>
>> > a related artifact...<br>
>> ><br>
>> > On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Charles Shapiro<br>
>> > <<a href="mailto:hooterpincher@gmail.com">hooterpincher@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> > wrote:<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> So I run my Kubuntu 9.10 box kinda weird -- specifically, I disable<br>
>> >> the display manager and start X when I need it with the "startx"<br>
>> >> script.<br>
>> >> Since upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10, I've noticed that the device manager<br>
>> >> in the toolbar stops working after a few minutes of X uptime. The<br>
>> >> symptoms are that the toolbar freezes for a while, but the device<br>
>> >> never mounts. I can still easily mount USB mass storage devices from<br>
>> >> the command line ("mount -t vfat /dev/sdc1 /mnt/sd"), so the trouble<br>
>> >> was clearly in KDE. Further investigation showed that the trouble was<br>
>> >> related to Dolphin -- when I run dolphin from the command line I get a<br>
>> >> looong delay, followed by random kvetching about connecting to some<br>
>> >> X-related gizmo:<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> <unknown program name>(2557)/: Communication problem with "dolphin" ,<br>
>> >> it probably crashed.<br>
>> >> Error message was: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" : " "Message<br>
>> >> did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)" "<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> After this error, dolphin would eventually start.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> So the SOLUTION, to make a long story short, is to make sure that a<br>
>> >> dolphin session is always running in KDE. As long as I have a session<br>
>> >> up somewhere, everything seems to be copacetic.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> I haven't seen this on google or anywhere else.<br>
>> >><br>
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