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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Some of the bigger things we’ve received come
in wooden crates and/or have tip indicators. If they were not handle properly
its usually fairly evident once its on the dock.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Today I got a legacy server from an acquisition
we did and found they had made a cardboard box out of two others boxes then put
that inside yet another one – then they wrapped it all up with shrink wrap.
When I opened it all I found one of the fans laying in the inner box and that
the front door that they’d locked was still locked but the plastic side bard it
locked to had broken loose so it wasn’t “really” locked any longer. There’s
also one little piece of rubber/plastic that I have no clue as to its purpose
or if it was really part of this server. Surprisingly enough despite all that
it booted up fine. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I thought I was done with SCO Legacy
servers until this showed up today. :-(<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:windowtext'> ale-bounces@ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>David M Lemcoe Jr.<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, April 09, 2010 4:18
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Atlanta
Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [ale] OT: WD
"Advanced Format" and "Green Drives"</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>On 4/9/2010 15:57, Jim Kinney wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>I did a wiring project at
DHL some time back. I observed their handling crew would throw the boxes tagged
"fragile" _harder_ than the others that were not marked. If they
heard tinkeling sounds ofterwards it was a source of much hilarity.<br>
<br>
FedEx drove a forklift fork through a server case I shipped out. When it was
delivered, they positioned the boxes to hide the damage and ran back to the
truck. 2 layers of 300lb cardboard, 4 inches of polystyrene foam, another layer
of 200lb cardboard and the metal case side all had a gash 5 inches wide and 1/2
inch tall. Mobo was dead as was one cpu and 2 out the 6 DIMMs.<br>
<br>
I have since designed a hard-sided server shipping case with internal shock
mounts that should let a server survive a 6 foot drop. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 3:05 PM, William Fragakis <<a
href="mailto:william@fragakis.com" moz-do-not-send=true>william@fragakis.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Helpful advice from a newegg review. I've seen this
elsewhere in their<br>
reviews, too.<br>
<br>
"Here's a suggestion for anyone buying a hard drive, go with FedEx, the<br>
express saver is the cheapest. I know it cost more than UPS and Newegg's<br>
"free shipping" isn't FedEx, but here's the deal: I have bought over
30<br>
hard drives (Western Digital and Seagate) through Newegg in the past 2<br>
years, 100% of the ones shipped FedEx are still running, 80% of the ones<br>
shipped UPS were either DOA or failed within 6 months. UPS beats the<br>
He11 out of their shipments, even their website states that every<br>
package is subject to a 6 foot drop. Do the math, free shipping or<br>
cheaper UPS shipping isn't free in the long run. I ship my non-fragile<br>
items with the free shipping, but I do a separate order and use FedEx<br>
for hard drives and Motherboards."<br>
</span></font><font color="#888888"><span style='color:#888888'><br>
wf</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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On Fri, 2010-04-09 at 13:45 -0400, Greg Freemyer wrote:<br>
> I would avoid drives with 4KiB physical blocks for a while longer<br>
> unless you want to take extra care about alignment etc.<br>
><br>
> As an example parted only got alignment support for them in Dec. 2009<br>
> (parted 2.0 or 2.1)<br>
><br>
> My preferred distro is OpenSuse they only got that version of parted<br>
> into their factory distro source code last friday. It is supposed to<br>
> part of the "milestone 5" release they are doing over the
weekend, but<br>
> milestone 5 is effectively a alpha release of the distro.<br>
><br>
> So I would have to be using a alpha release of that distro to get true<br>
> 4KiB partition alignment support.<br>
><br>
> And at this point no one has even reported testing the full alpha<br>
> release against a 4 KiB drive.<br>
><br>
> There first released version with support will be 11.3 that comes out in
July.<br>
><br>
> Greg<br>
><br>
> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Brian Pitts <<a
href="mailto:brian@polibyte.com" moz-do-not-send=true>brian@polibyte.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
> > Hi,<br>
> ><br>
> > I'm thinking about getting a large, slow hard drive [0] for backups
and<br>
> > media storage. I'll be putting it in a USB enclosure. Does anyone
have<br>
> > experience, good or ill, with the latest Western Digital drives that
use<br>
> > 4KiB blocks and "intellipark".<br>
> ><br>
> > [0] <a
href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136513"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send=true>http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136513</a><br>
> ><br>
> > --<br>
> > All the best,<br>
> > Brian Pitts<br>
> > _______________________________________________<br>
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> > See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at<br>
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moz-do-not-send=true>http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo</a><br>
> ><br>
><br>
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size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
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size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><a
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>I heard a similar story about a server being
completely destroyed thanks to shipping. <br>
<br>
I guess the only way to get a server that you know has been treated properly is
to go to the factory and get it off the line :/<br>
<br>
David<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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