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On 4/9/2010 15:57, Jim Kinney wrote:
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type="cite">I did a wiring project at DHL some time back. I observed
their handling crew would throw the boxes tagged "fragile" _harder_
than the others that were not marked. If they heard tinkeling sounds
ofterwards it was a source of much hilarity.<br>
<br>
FedEx drove a forklift fork through a server case I shipped out. When
it was delivered, they positioned the boxes to hide the damage and ran
back to the truck. 2 layers of 300lb cardboard, 4 inches of polystyrene
foam, another layer of 200lb cardboard and the metal case side all had
a gash 5 inches wide and 1/2 inch tall. Mobo was dead as was one cpu
and 2 out the 6 DIMMs.<br>
<br>
I have since designed a hard-sided server shipping case with internal
shock mounts that should let a server survive a 6 foot drop. <br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 3:05 PM, William
Fragakis <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:william@fragakis.com">william@fragakis.com</a>></span>
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style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Helpful
advice from a newegg review. I've seen this elsewhere in their<br>
reviews, too.<br>
<br>
"Here's a suggestion for anyone buying a hard drive, go with FedEx, the<br>
express saver is the cheapest. I know it cost more than UPS and Newegg's<br>
"free shipping" isn't FedEx, but here's the deal: I have bought over 30<br>
hard drives (Western Digital and Seagate) through Newegg in the past 2<br>
years, 100% of the ones shipped FedEx are still running, 80% of the ones<br>
shipped UPS were either DOA or failed within 6 months. UPS beats the<br>
He11 out of their shipments, even their website states that every<br>
package is subject to a 6 foot drop. Do the math, free shipping or<br>
cheaper UPS shipping isn't free in the long run. I ship my non-fragile<br>
items with the free shipping, but I do a separate order and use FedEx<br>
for hard drives and Motherboards."<br>
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wf<br>
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On Fri, 2010-04-09 at 13:45 -0400, Greg Freemyer wrote:<br>
> I would avoid drives with 4KiB physical blocks for a while longer<br>
> unless you want to take extra care about alignment etc.<br>
><br>
> As an example parted only got alignment support for them in Dec.
2009<br>
> (parted 2.0 or 2.1)<br>
><br>
> My preferred distro is OpenSuse they only got that version of
parted<br>
> into their factory distro source code last friday. It is supposed
to<br>
> part of the "milestone 5" release they are doing over the weekend,
but<br>
> milestone 5 is effectively a alpha release of the distro.<br>
><br>
> So I would have to be using a alpha release of that distro to get
true<br>
> 4KiB partition alignment support.<br>
><br>
> And at this point no one has even reported testing the full alpha<br>
> release against a 4 KiB drive.<br>
><br>
> There first released version with support will be 11.3 that comes
out in July.<br>
><br>
> Greg<br>
><br>
> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Brian Pitts <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:brian@polibyte.com">brian@polibyte.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
> > Hi,<br>
> ><br>
> > I'm thinking about getting a large, slow hard drive [0] for
backups and<br>
> > media storage. I'll be putting it in a USB enclosure. Does
anyone have<br>
> > experience, good or ill, with the latest Western Digital
drives that use<br>
> > 4KiB blocks and "intellipark".<br>
> ><br>
> > [0] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136513"
target="_blank">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136513</a><br>
> ><br>
> > --<br>
> > All the best,<br>
> > Brian Pitts<br>
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I heard a similar story about a server being completely destroyed
thanks to shipping. <br>
<br>
I guess the only way to get a server that you know has been treated
properly is to go to the factory and get it off the line :/<br>
<br>
David<br>
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