<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 9:19 PM, Brian Pitts <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:brian@polibyte.com">brian@polibyte.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div class="im">On 11/28/2009 07:42 PM, Marc Ferguson wrote:<br>
</div><div class="im">> Hey Folks,<br>
><br>
> I'm a big-time Fedora user and I wanted to know if anyone has played<br>
> with Fedora 12, natively? I'm going to wait about another week or so<br>
> before I upgrade. Also; I've done the netboot install lately, but I see<br>
> that I can do a YUM upgrade option. Does anyone recommend that? Thanks.<br>
<br>
</div>Frankly, the only difference I've noticed in 12 is that network manager<br>
has gotten some more functionality and polish.<br>
<br>
I think there are two supported upgrade methods:<br>
<br>
i) Upgrade by booting the dvd. Anaconda should recognize your existing<br>
installation and offer to upgrade it.<br>
ii) Upgrade using the 'preupgrade' tool [0]. THis downloads all the rpms<br>
you need while you're still using your system, then reboots into Anaconda.<br>
<br>
There's also the possibility of upgrading using yum, but it's not<br>
recommended. [1]<br>
<br>
I tried to upgrade from 11 to 12 using the DVD. I have two major complaints.<br>
<br>
1) I expected Anaconda to give me the option of adding other<br>
repositories. It never did. This meant any software I had installed<br>
which wasn't included on the dvd couldn't be upgraded from it.<br>
<br>
2) If the upgrade process fails, fixing it is pretty painful.<br>
<br>
a) THere's an rpm named fedora-release that tells fedora what version it<br>
is. If the upgrade fails after you've installed the updated version of<br>
it, when you try to restart the upgrade via rebooting Anaconda refuses<br>
to start in upgrade mode. Instead, it only present options for<br>
installing a fresh system. The solution is to pass it the 'upgradeany'<br>
option through the kernel boot options.<br>
<br>
b) The way Anaconda seems to work is that all the Fedora 12 rpms are<br>
installed, then all the Fedora 11 rpms are removed. This means that if<br>
the upgrade fails you'll have both installed. Restarting the upgrade<br>
won't cause it to remove the Fedora 11 packages that had their updated<br>
versions installed before the failure.<br>
<br>
c) If you have two versions of fedora-release installed, yum seems to<br>
select repositories for the older one.<br>
<br>
d) 'yum upgrade --obseletes --skip-broken' is really, really dumb<br>
compared to apt-get or aptitude. If your system is in an inconsistent<br>
state, prepare to spend a lot of time manually fixing it. rpm and<br>
package-cleanup are your friends.<br>
<br>
[0] <a href="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PreUpgrade" target="_blank">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PreUpgrade</a><br>
[1] <a href="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/YumUpgradeFaq" target="_blank">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/YumUpgradeFaq</a><br>
<br>
--<br>
All the best,<br>
<font color="#888888">Brian Pitts<br>
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</div></div></blockquote></div><br>Awesome, thanks for your feedback fellas.<br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Marc Ferguson<br><br><a href="http://www.fergytech.com">www.fergytech.com</a><br><a href="http://www.digitalalias.net">www.digitalalias.net</a><br>
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