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So I think I figured out how ALE's mailman is invalidating PGP sigs under certain circumstances. Using the message I sent via gmail/firepgp that got an invalid sig, I compared the raw msg that mailman sent out to the one stored in my gmail Sent folder. What I found is that mailman wrapped one of the headers in the signed portion of the message thus invalidating the signature.<BR>
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GPG is handed everything between the 'multipart/signed' boundaries (-------firegpg0710eqg2j410d98by2livyjc in this case) to produce the signature (line endings are also normalized but that's beside the point). However, as you'll see below, mailman wrapped the 1st Content-Type header when it sent out the message. That may have been the RFC-correct thing to do since the header is 80 chars but I can't imagine any modern email client that can't handle long headers.<BR>
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Is there a way to persuade mailman to treat everything between 'multipart/signed' boundaries as sacred untouchable? Similarly for clear-signed messages: Don't touch between &quot;-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----&quot; and &quot;-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----&quot;.<BR>
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(The stuff below will be more legible in HTML, sorry)
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&lt;...other msg headers...&gt;
X-FireGPG-Version: 0.7.10
Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol=&quot;application/pgp-signature&quot;; boundary=&quot;-----firegpg0710eqg2j410d98by2livyjc&quot;

This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156)
-------firegpg0710eqg2j410d98by2livyjc
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=&quot;firegpg0710eqg2j410dlntbr800mza1&quot;

--firegpg0710eqg2j410dlntbr800mza1
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64

dHJ5aW5nIHRvIGlzb2xhdGUgd2h5IHNvbWUgQUxFIHNpZ3MgcmVwb3J0IGFzIGludmFsaWQuIHNl
bmRpbmcgdmlhIGdtYWlsL2ZpcmVncGcuLi4NCg0K
--firegpg0710eqg2j410dlntbr800mza1
Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64

dHJ5aW5nIHRvIGlzb2xhdGUgd2h5IHNvbWUgQUxFIHNpZ3MgcmVwb3J0IGFzIGludmFsaWQuIHNl
bmRpbmcgdmlhIGdtYWlsL2ZpcmVncGcuLi48YnI+PGJyPg0K
--firegpg0710eqg2j410dlntbr800mza1--

-------firegpg0710eqg2j410d98by2livyjc
Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=&quot;signature.asc&quot;
Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=&quot;signature.asc&quot;

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Use GnuPG with Firefox : http://getfiregpg.org (Version: 0.7.10)

iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJLD/CRAAoJEPn9tXGjlLx6s4YH/3odcaI8elLPAeEV9MJofSQF
6sAYFS35KccDqRMExTDGh2xnyGAprtuCTSZ5VdURGf7pmePsjSB61tDxMFKBocyN
NCiGPwcTsI4u1HcaW1DrOXFZlpdy5V4uzT1KWJr9P6lKdzstzQWFSFGMecv1qNsj
p6DiM1XDbrSAHoliMOzlrVpuoDhFzzfFyPcyj8J5p0ce88wlqF1+7Pph9QWXy52H
hErIyNgRR4/5XOJvo5a1p1uoMoIbYWlPJnpBGvCCoe2fiaJl9InGgKLXBrTL84w5
tFJfC2gxy4uWBRQHujw3U0GPRb7BCevb8kfYePhnjlaD/2EKQeSNqH81nJPzm0Q=
=MasR
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

-------firegpg0710eqg2j410d98by2livyjc--
=========================================== BEFORE MAILMAN:END

=========================================== AFTER MAILMAN:BEGIN
&lt;...other msg headers...&gt;
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<TT>Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=&quot;===============1966690486==&quot;</TT>
<TT>Sender: ale-bounces@ale.org</TT>
<TT>Errors-To: ale-bounces@ale.org</TT>

<TT>This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156)</TT>
<TT>--===============1966690486==</TT>
<TT>Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol=&quot;application/pgp-signature&quot;; boundary=&quot;-----firegpg0710eqg2j410d98by2livyjc&quot;</TT>

<TT>This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156)</TT>
<TT>-------firegpg0710eqg2j410d98by2livyjc</TT>
<TT><FONT COLOR="#ff0000">Content-Type: multipart/alternative;</FONT></TT>
<TT><FONT COLOR="#ff0000">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; boundary=&quot;firegpg0710eqg2j410dlntbr800mza1&quot;</FONT></TT>

<TT>--firegpg0710eqg2j410dlntbr800mza1</TT>
<TT>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=UTF-8</TT>
<TT>Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64</TT>

<TT>dHJ5aW5nIHRvIGlzb2xhdGUgd2h5IHNvbWUgQUxFIHNpZ3MgcmVwb3J0IGFzIGludmFsaWQuIHNl</TT>
<TT>bmRpbmcgdmlhIGdtYWlsL2ZpcmVncGcuLi4NCg0K</TT>
<TT>--firegpg0710eqg2j410dlntbr800mza1</TT>
<TT>Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8</TT>
<TT>Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64</TT>

<TT>dHJ5aW5nIHRvIGlzb2xhdGUgd2h5IHNvbWUgQUxFIHNpZ3MgcmVwb3J0IGFzIGludmFsaWQuIHNl</TT>
<TT>bmRpbmcgdmlhIGdtYWlsL2ZpcmVncGcuLi48YnI+PGJyPg0K</TT>
<TT>--firegpg0710eqg2j410dlntbr800mza1--</TT>

<TT>-------firegpg0710eqg2j410d98by2livyjc</TT>
<TT>Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=&quot;signature.asc&quot;</TT>
<TT>Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature</TT>
<TT>Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=&quot;signature.asc&quot;</TT>

<TT>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----</TT>
<TT>Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux)</TT>
<TT>Comment: Use GnuPG with Firefox : http://getfiregpg.org (Version: 0.7.10)</TT>

<TT>iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJLD/CRAAoJEPn9tXGjlLx6s4YH/3odcaI8elLPAeEV9MJofSQF</TT>
<TT>6sAYFS35KccDqRMExTDGh2xnyGAprtuCTSZ5VdURGf7pmePsjSB61tDxMFKBocyN</TT>
<TT>NCiGPwcTsI4u1HcaW1DrOXFZlpdy5V4uzT1KWJr9P6lKdzstzQWFSFGMecv1qNsj</TT>
<TT>p6DiM1XDbrSAHoliMOzlrVpuoDhFzzfFyPcyj8J5p0ce88wlqF1+7Pph9QWXy52H</TT>
<TT>hErIyNgRR4/5XOJvo5a1p1uoMoIbYWlPJnpBGvCCoe2fiaJl9InGgKLXBrTL84w5</TT>
<TT>tFJfC2gxy4uWBRQHujw3U0GPRb7BCevb8kfYePhnjlaD/2EKQeSNqH81nJPzm0Q=</TT>
<TT>=MasR</TT>
<TT>-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----</TT>

<TT>-------firegpg0710eqg2j410d98by2livyjc--</TT>


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<TT>MIME-Version: 1.0</TT>
<TT>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit</TT>
<TT>Content-Disposition: inline</TT>

<TT>_______________________________________________</TT>
<TT>Ale mailing list</TT>
<TT>Ale@ale.org</TT>
<TT>http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale</TT>
<TT>See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at</TT>
<TT>http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo</TT>

<TT>--===============1966690486==--</TT>

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Love all, trust a few. Do wrong to none.<BR>
-- William Shakespeare<BR>
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